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Or perhaps creeps could try stop being creeps.
Yeah totally. And murders should stop being murders. And rapists should stop being rapists. So easy!
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Yupp. As many, including Brianna Wu, have done. Then what? The harasser could be a 21 year old man in Siberia, covering himself up with multiple layers of anonymity. I'm suggesting that the attackers will keep attacking until you leave the platform, or just shut up, and so they will have won. The means to police harassment is not yet where we expect it to be. Why should those that are being attacked be on the lookout…
I'm not going to pretend I have answer, but I'm just going to repeat what I said; that celebrities have been trying to solve this problem for a long time. They hire security, have security installed in their homes, etc. etc. Plugging our ears and saying "LALALA the bad guys need to stop being bad" won't solve anything. Because yes, people will hide behind proxies. You don't need to leave the platform. You don't need…
I get that you think you are just being pragmatic, but since you do not have an actual solution to offer, the best thing you can do is at least not help promote an atmosphere where folks think it is normal and okay for men to behave this way. Choosing to not put out the fire with gasoline is a constructive choice if you have no real solution to offer. It at least burns slower that way.
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>> Perhaps people facing consistent harassment like this should try something similar? Or work under a pseudonym? Perhaps we need to get rid of pseudonyms. A lot of this behavior would stop if people had to be identifiable. Although that doesn't seem to stop them all - you see some real names and email addresses in there.
Then post your name and address.
I almost do. You should be able to locate my real world postal address inside of 10 minutes. Probably 5.
I'm not saying there should be no anonymity online. I think the default should be identifiable, and sites and services can strip that info and provide locally anonymous environments. That way you can't get anonymous attacks unless you're participating in those places. It's easy to strip ID, but hard to verify it if it's not built-in.
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Then post your name and address.
>> Then post your name and address. I almost do. You should be able to locate my real world postal address inside of 10 minutes. Probably 5. I'm not saying there should be no anonymity online. I think the default should be identifiable, and sites and services can strip that info and provide locally anonymous environments. That way you can't get anonymous attacks unless you're participating in those places. It's easy…
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>> Then post your name and address. I almost do. You should be able to locate my real world postal address inside of 10 minutes. Probably 5. I'm not saying there should be no anonymity online. I think the default should be identifiable, and sites and services can strip that info and provide locally anonymous environments. That way you can't get anonymous attacks unless you're participating in those places. It's easy…
So you would require all online activity be done through "identity verifiers" such as Facebook? You have probably seen how many issues Facebook's Real Name policy has caused, and that doesn't even come close that level.
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Then post your name and address.
>> Then post your name and address. I almost do. You should be able to locate my real world postal address inside of 10 minutes. Probably 5. I'm not saying there should be no anonymity online. I think the default should be identifiable, and sites and services can strip that info and provide locally anonymous environments. That way you can't get anonymous attacks unless you're participating in those places. It's easy…
I read that (deep) learning algos can decide if a message is positive or negative. Could they learn if a message is a harassment so we could implement a automatic filter for such things? -- Edit -- I mean this is really bad and we should get these dudes to stop somehow. But it greatly reduced my anger looking into my inbox, when I stopped seeing spam in there. The spammers did never stop...
Unfortunately, some of those threatening messages are from real world stalkers. Those need to be seen because the message might be the only clue that the person has been targeted.
Such threatening messages must not be automatically deleted, rather seen, saved, and forwarded to the appropriate authorities.
I read that (deep) learning algos can decide if a message is positive or negative. Could they learn if a message is a harassment so we could implement a automatic filter for such things? -- Edit -- I mean this is really bad and we should get these dudes to stop somehow. But it greatly reduced my anger looking into my inbox, when I stopped seeing spam in there. The spammers did never stop...
That would be a great idea if all messages were not harmful in reality. Unfortunately, some of those threatening messages are from real world stalkers. Those need to be seen because the message might be the only clue that the person has been targeted. Such threatening messages must not be automatically deleted, rather seen, saved, and forwarded to the appropriate authorities.