I run Windows 8 inside Virtual Box but the Windows 10 upgrade won't install due to a graphics driver issue. Hoping that is fixed so I don't get left out in the cold.
Microsoft Removes the Option to Opt Out of Windows 10 Free Upgrade?
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#72I'm glad I waited. Perhaps I am one of the few who is ..ok with using Windows 8. I don't feel the need to upgrade, and I'm deeply hesitant to upgrade for fear of something like this. I am taking risks with security, but it's either this or go Linux; I'm terrible with the command line.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
There have been some pretty significant under-the-hood security upgrades in each new version of Windows. So while the UI changes are what users notice, the new security features are probably the more important reason to upgrade.
The security features seem to be more about protecting users from themselves and other users on the same machine than remote exploits though, which may be OK for "average users" and terminal-server type environments but definitely a negative for advanced users/developers who don't want the OS thinking it knows better than them, and are probably the only user. Remote exploits that don't require any user action (i.e. s…
Even power users are still vulnerable to exploits that are executed by a site you're visiting or image/video you're viewing. And exploits that take advantage of privilege escalation don't just protect multi-user systems, they protect you if you're running as a limited user or if you're using UAC. It's a scary world out there for everyone, even if you don't run plugins in your browsers.
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#74I'm assuming this didnt apply to enterprise customers? The move from xp to 7 was a big deal for IT departments everywhere. I cant imagine them moving on from 7 anytime soon.
It's even worse for some enterprise with VL agreements like us. We have a 1 year window to get everyone on windows 10 from the release date.
Needless to say a few macs and centos boxes have made an appearance and everyone suddenly knows python.
I'm making the jump when 7.2 drops and moving to windows in a VM.
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
There have been some pretty significant under-the-hood security upgrades in each new version of Windows. So while the UI changes are what users notice, the new security features are probably the more important reason to upgrade.
The security features seem to be more about protecting users from themselves and other users on the same machine than remote exploits though, which may be OK for "average users" and terminal-server type environments but definitely a negative for advanced users/developers who don't want the OS thinking it knows better than them, and are probably the only user. Remote exploits that don't require any user action (i.e. s…
From a security standpoint advanced users are the worst. Most think they know how to protect their PC and they can handle the typical malware exploit. Then they get completely taken because some productivity tool they downloaded from the Internet gets hijacked (no code signing, no verification, no identification of the author). And these idiots want to run in privileged mode all the time.
Could you imagine the outcry from Linux users if someone wanted to run as root all the time? Hell no!
When I switched from programmer to admin I was basically handed binders of various laws (US, UK, EU primarily) on data security and the penalties when you screw up. Now I sit at the other side of the table and inform developers what they can and can't do with user data. I've never had to walk into the bosses office and say we have to call the police, someone has walked off with our users PIDs.
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#76My concern with Windows 10, and I expect it to get addressed, is having a platform underneath me keep changing. I don't want to get in my car one day and find out that the gas pedal has changed positions with the brake. I expect my OS to be just as consistent in this regard. So, for me, I need a way to say, "I don't ever want to upgrade automatically. I'll upgrade when I'm ready".
On one hand, your wish prevents IT from advancing: Many companies are still stuck with... IE6. Chrome triggered leaps in the evolution of IT by using automatic upgrades.
On the other hand, auto-upgrading software gives the US diplomacy a lot of leverage over the rest of the world. A country in negotiation with US could have all GPS, mobiles and computers shut down at the flick of a switch.
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#77This would run afoul of the European 'cookie law' (the name is a bit of a misnomer as it applies to more than just cookies). In short: Microsoft needs express permission to store/modify files on my computer. It will probably be spun like Windows 10 is a security update to old OS's, but that is simply not sincere. Given the problematic privacy/sharing/phone-home settings on Windows 10 one can hardly call it a security…
The total of fines Microsoft has already faced from the European Commission is €2bn. It's mostly for forgetting to give the browser choice in Vista, if I remember well, after doing it properly in XP, and for not publishing the documentation of an API. On the other hand, given automatic upgrades are now a habit, and given Microsoft's monopoly is on a very narrower market (so, not sure it's a monopoly), I'm not sure th…
Most users will (rightly so) view this as an OS upgrade, not as an update. You already gave MS permission to provide you with security updates. You did not give MS permission to upgrade your OS. I feel the difference is of importance as updates are often necessary, while upgrades are not.
This update installs the Get Windows 10 app, which
helps users understand their Windows 10 upgrade options
and device readiness.
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#78Old and inaccurate: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/10/window... Microsoft has said the force push was a mistake. I suppose you could argue their sincerity on that, but the fact remains that they did remove it.
That was about Windows Update "mistakenly" installing Windows 10. The OP is about GWX removing the option to delay the upgrade.
I wonder how all of the Microsoft haters who think this is "not a mistake" feel about other conspiracy theories?
What do you know about lizard people?
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#79> While switching to a new OS, especially Windows 10 is definitely a good move Who is claiming this? Maybe for hardware known to have good Windows 10 support it's a good move. For me, I've had more blue screens in the last month than I had in the 10 years before that. Lots of poor driver support (fingerprint reader doesn't work, touchpad reverts settings after every boot, crashes). The user experience is an upgrade f…
Dell,Lenovo and HP have completely dropped the ball with drivers for Windows 10. Its not horrible but at the same time not perfect. I will be ordering as many Surface book's as I can get once they are available. I think an office with 50% Surface Books and 50% Macbook Pros is progress. Not saying it will fix it for sure , but a bios update and complete format/re-install (after you already activated Windows 10 from an…
I have an Asus laptop and I had to perform black magic in order to get the mini jack audio out to work.
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#80Up until 2013 or so, I was always a PC guy. I wanted to be a PC guy. But Microsoft did, and continues to do, everything in their power to change my mind about that. I still have one old laptop running Windows 7, the instant they force-upgrade that is the instant I bid adieu to the last remnant of Microsoft in my home computing life.
Speaking of which, using the term "PC" to describe x86 Windows machines somewhat compatible with IBM PC standards (a.k.a. "Wintel") desperately needs to die.
Yes. It is infuriating to hear the phrase "PC or linux"