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EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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post #24

In general, this is a very good thing. The main outcome will be that more engineers will be needed to do more work to ensure that data is handled more carefully. The cost will be slightly reduced profits at companies that handle large volumes of data globally. What's bad about that?

Well, viable strategy now for many startups (also EU ones) using US infrastructure is to block all EU customers. How is that good?

It'll do wonders for EU start ups using EU infastructure.

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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post #27

Question: If Facebook manages data within Europe, what are the safeguards in place to ensure that there won't be mass surveillance, e.g. face recognition, shadow profiles, friend graph browsing?

That's use of the data to which you've "consented" by their EULA. "Mass surveillance" specifically refers to warrantless bulk access to that data by security agencies.

(Shadow profiles are plainly a violation of data protection law; do they exist for EU users?)

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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Interesting tidbit: If you try to refer to this article with a link on Facebook, they will block you from posting it.

This is one of the very reasons why I "deleted" my Facebook account three years ago and never looked back.

I for one do not welcome our new content curating overlords.

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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There is one key issue that is routinely ignored. The US and other countries have two sets of data protection rules that govern police and security services. One set of rules for residents of that country (e.g. US persons) or domestic data and another much less stringent set or rules for everyone else. So even if data protection rules were perfectly adequate in every single country on this planet, there would still b…

> The US and other countries have two sets of data protection rules that govern police and security services. One set of rules for residents of that country (e.g. US persons) or domestic data and another much less stringent set or rules for everyone else.

This is going to be generally true of most countries. If it weren't the case, most forms of espionage would be subject to prosecution in the spy's home state.

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't just an impediment to businesses that deal in selling "sensitive private data". It's an impediment to any business that has any data about its customers (e.g. delivery addresses). Unless I'm misunderstanding it?

Nope, more useless EU bureaucracy (stupid cookie popup) just to pretend that the NSA won't get (be given) the data by EU governments. Everyone thinks the cookie law is dumb, but there it is, constantly reminding everyone of their folly.

In terms of state level spying. I understand that currently GCHQ hands everything over to the NSA. However, I can vote and lobby in my country to have proper safeguards on how our domestic spy agencies work. I can't vote or lobby in the US to add safeguards to the NSA there. Therefore I want as a first step that my data stays in the UK.

And besides this the rules for how private companies can handle my data are totally different in the UK to the US. In the UK private data comes with fairly strict obligations under the data protection acts and leaking (even accidentally or due to insufficient safeguards preventing malicious actions) can be punished robustly. As I understand it in the US the laws are rather different.

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If those companies can't remain profitable without being irresponsible with sensitive private data then maybe they shouldn't exist at all.

This isn't just an impediment to businesses that deal in selling "sensitive private data". It's an impediment to any business that has any data about its customers (e.g. delivery addresses). Unless I'm misunderstanding it?

Then treat personal data as radioactive. Don't store it. Don't collect it if you don't need it. If you have it, try to get rid of it, and delete it ASAP.

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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post #22

Interesting tidbit: If you try to refer to this article with a link on Facebook, they will block you from posting it.

Perhaps you could use a url redirection service, such as tinyurl.com?

The issue is not really about how to share the link, it's about why such a link is blocked

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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Interesting tidbit: If you try to refer to this article with a link on Facebook, they will block you from posting it.

I also cannot share this on FB. Amazing. The fact that FB is censoring this content deserves its own HN exposure. It is an article about international law with nothing offensive, but FB blocks it.... this is going further than I'd have thought FB would ever do. The future doesn't look so bright for social media.

Re: EU data protection law after the Safe Harbour judgment

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post #22

Interesting tidbit: If you try to refer to this article with a link on Facebook, they will block you from posting it.

Perhaps you could use a url redirection service, such as tinyurl.com?

Fb follow links to final destination. It's block this
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