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What kind of things can they measure from urine and saliva? Can you point at any literature on this, would love to read more about it.
Adrenaline, Noradrenaline, Dopamine, Serotonine, Cortisol, GABA and many more... Just google "lab test" for these.
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Adrenaline, Noradrenaline, Dopamine, Serotonine, Cortisol, GABA and many more... Just google "lab test" for these.
The results all talk about tests that measure levels in the urine or blood, not the level in the brain, sorry if I'm being thick, but I don't see any actually measure brain levels.
> What kind of things can they measure from urine and saliva?
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Yes Edit: I also hear it frequently from parents of children who have been referred to psychiatrists by their schoolteachers for (in my opinion at least) fairly minor disruptive behaviour in class; they are repeating what the psychiatrists tell them. The psychiatrists also quote statistics like "half of Swedish inmates are adhd, so if you don't treat your child's adhd there's a good chance he'll end up a criminal (ye…
So, you haven't actually heard it from the doctors? Because (especially in the UK) any prescribing doctor talking about chemical imbalance for ADHD in children is incompetent. > Here in the UK the diagnosing psychiatrist is also the one that the child must return to twice a year for a checkup at 500 pounds per visit. This is false. All treatment is available for free on the NHS. Once they have a diagnosis children do…
Unfortunately doctors don't follow the official procedures all the time. My experience in the UK does not appear to be an unusual one when I compare notes with other parents.
The treatment may be "free" on the NHS but that doesn't mean the doctor doesn't get paid, and I definitely have direct experience of the diagnosing psychiatrist being the one who is assigned to the child's follow up.
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#64As this is framed more as the results of a policy change, there are some things to consider when banning weed: - Street sales to tourists and foreigners exploded. Small-time dealers reported weekly income of 2k Euros during the prohibition. - Dutch teenagers use less weed than German, UK and Belgian teens. Legal availability seems inversely correlated with actual use. - In France there is no clear distinction between…
An immediate family member, who happens to be a 30 year practicing behavioral therapist freely admits most science preceeding the 21st cemtury is bunk science based more on policy than science. The blank brain scans of the "habitual pot smoker" hanging on the clinic walls were the source of many amusements. The pro's I speak with all agree, addictions and self-defeating behaviors are the products of deeper problems... and, "everything in moderation". Oh, but we as a culture are taught to always blame external 'demons' we can point to to excuse our personal shortcomings without having to shoulder that whole 'personal responsibility' burden. Meh.
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#65It appears that regular cannabis use [0] decreases dopaminergic brain-activity [1]. Dopamine is often referred to as "pleasure"-transmitter, but it's function in certain parts of the brain is better thought of as "regulating expectation", therefore influencing drive & motivation. It makes it possible to work on stuff you don't particularly enjoy by focussing on an expected long-term reward. This works by enabling you…
I wonder then what the effect of cannabis is on the motivation/drive of someone with ADHD. Does the ADHD subject have a very weak frontostriatal circuit to begin with so that low dopamine levels only make something weak weaker (and therefore not having as profound outward effect as making a strong frontostriatal circuit weak). Or do the low dopamine levels and impaired circuit compound each other, resulting in a larg…
I'd also like point this out:
http://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-is-struggling-to-hire-hackers-who...
>The FBI Is Struggling to Hire Hackers Who Don't Smoke Weed
I think most people who work stressful jobs have difficult times when it comes to concentrating on long term goals, it's just human nature. For me marijuana has helped me reach many goals that I would have other wise given up on due to mental exhaustion.
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#66I think things like drugs and alcohol are worse for growing brains. From a NYC teacher (One reference point) "I’ve taught high school for 25 years and I hate what marijuana does to my students. It goes beyond missing homework assignments. My students become less curious when they start smoking pot. I’ve seen it time and time again. People say pot makes you more creative, but from what I’ve seen, it narrows my student…
I think this teacher should take this as an opportunity to examine what it is he, and the institution he works for is offering these students as an alternative, and consider the students are making rational choices that serve them better. We know from the Rat Park study that rats in an enriched environment full of positive social engagement and freedom do not choose morphine. [1] If the students are choosing drugs, i…
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I wonder then what the effect of cannabis is on the motivation/drive of someone with ADHD. Does the ADHD subject have a very weak frontostriatal circuit to begin with so that low dopamine levels only make something weak weaker (and therefore not having as profound outward effect as making a strong frontostriatal circuit weak). Or do the low dopamine levels and impaired circuit compound each other, resulting in a larg…
I use cannabis to treat ADHD. I didn't like the side effects of the other drugs my doctor gave me. It works really well for me. I'd also like point this out: http://gizmodo.com/the-fbi-is-struggling-to-hire-hackers-who... >The FBI Is Struggling to Hire Hackers Who Don't Smoke Weed I think most people who work stressful jobs have difficult times when it comes to concentrating on long term goals, it's just human nature…
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#68Glad to see some sort of scientific study on this. Too much of the debate is based on ideology and hearsay, not systematic study. Colorado sets aside a quarter of its pot taxes for scientific study. Fed funding sources generally ban or highly restrict such studies. So we dont have good modern evidence for the claimed benefits or harms of drugs.
i find it frustratingly unscientific in regards to what i consider scientific investigation
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How harmful would cannabis have to be to people until you'd consider banning it?
Personally, it would have to be worse than the impact on your life for getting a felony charge for possession. This whole "we have to put people in jail and destroy any and all future job prospects for their own protection" is madness.
The only way you get serious charges or any jail time at all for marijuana in America is when you've been arrested for serious crimes, but a District Attorney goes with "possession" for the plea deal. It's just easier that way.
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#70Steve Yegge comes to rescue: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2009/04/have-you-ever-legali... So... one minor, teeny-weeny almost insigificant caveat before I continue: I have smoked marijuana (and inhaled it, deeply) on more occasions than I can count. And yet I'm almost undoubtedly smarter than your kid that you're so goddamned worried about. I skipped three grades (3rd, 7th and 8th), entered high school at age 11 a…
Yet for me a few months of pot gave me a stutter for two years, and I'm pretty sure killed my motivation in my final school year. I eventually got my act together and got an engineering degree, but I'd definitely recommend against pot use.