According to a front page article this week, milk contains a progenitor to NAD. There may be no causation, but it's an intriguing correlation.
NAD?
For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
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Re: For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
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I know! and so is eating honey! eating food designed for a baby bee to grow is wrong. /s
Just don't give honey to baby people. Totally not what you were saying, I get that, but I think it's always a good public service type message to spread. http://www.benefits-of-honey.com/honey-and-infant.html
That link doesn't mention the dental hygiene problems of sugar. So, even when your child is over 12 months it's probably a good idea to minimise the amount of honey they eat.
Re: For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know! and so is eating honey! eating food designed for a baby bee to grow is wrong. /s
Just don't give honey to baby people. Totally not what you were saying, I get that, but I think it's always a good public service type message to spread. http://www.benefits-of-honey.com/honey-and-infant.html
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Re: For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
#64"[Whole milk] was banned from school lunch programs." Most schools don't even have 1% milk, but they all have chocolate milk with tons of added sugar. Great healthy choice there.
Gah, school lunches and nutritional recommendations make me so mad.
Everyone thought eggs and butter were unhealthy too. 6-11 servings of grain though! The "food pyramid" was beaten into my head repeatedly as a child, with some suspicious board of agriculture sponsored exercises too. Turns out it was total bullshit.
We feed our kids the worst garbage, at least we did from 1992-2005. A nation should want its kids to grow up big and strong. But nope, let em eat french fries and pears in heavy syrup.
Re: For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
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Those instincts were evolved to get you to reproduce and live long enough for your offspring to be self-sufficient. The world has changed enormously since the industrial revolution and there's hardly been enough time for new instincts to evolve to account for modern society.
I don't agree. The human body tells you when things are right or wrong. It is about the effects, not whether it is a new stimulus that caused those effects.
I used the sun example because a few years ago scientist had everyone avoiding the sun and now they have realised that sun exposure is important. Scientists literally have no idea what they are doing. Tans look good and the sun feels good. That is what guides me and it is a much more reliable source of knowledge than science.
Re: For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
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It seems a weird sort of naturalism fallacy to assume that mixing milk by hand is optimal. I'd be very skeptical about health benefits, but I'm open to the notion that it tastes different. Have you done a side by side comparison (do some brands offer both?)
this is only anecdotal but in Europe I never had trouble digesting milk. The milk they sell in the US makes me feel bloated. It also tastes differently. Obviously that's not a scientific study but for me it's good enough to conclude that something is different.
Sure, but why conclude that the relevant "something" that is different is homogenization?
Re: For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
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Well, I guess government follows the scientific conclusions and recommendations. Some might turn out to be wrong and we unlearn them. Science does make mistakes, but that's the best we've got. We can't leave it to intuitions of the masses.
I find humans to be pretty funny. Modern day humans no longer trust the instincts they have developed over millions of years and instead put their faith in shitty science and corporate marketing. They no longer trust themselves to know how long to stay in the sun, how many steps to take, or what kind of foods to eat.
>Modern day humans no longer trust the instincts they have developed over millions of years ... or what kind of foods to eat.
Really? This is a naturalistic fallacy. It's out precisely our instincts that cause us to overeat. As has been pointed out our instincts haven't adapted to the abundance and availability of food seen today. In an environment where food is scarce it is evolutionary advantageous to ensure your body had enough calories to make it until the next available meal. And this didn't mean picking the most nutritious food sources, we didn't have that luxury, it meant picking the most available. Only as directed by science do we now know what foods provide the most benefit or determent to our health.
Re: For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems a weird sort of naturalism fallacy to assume that mixing milk by hand is optimal. I'd be very skeptical about health benefits, but I'm open to the notion that it tastes different. Have you done a side by side comparison (do some brands offer both?)
this is only anecdotal but in Europe I never had trouble digesting milk. The milk they sell in the US makes me feel bloated. It also tastes differently. Obviously that's not a scientific study but for me it's good enough to conclude that something is different.
Not the first time I have heard of differences between US and European milk on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9323380
Re: For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
#69"[Whole milk] was banned from school lunch programs." Most schools don't even have 1% milk, but they all have chocolate milk with tons of added sugar. Great healthy choice there.
Gah, school lunches and nutritional recommendations make me so mad. Everyone thought eggs and butter were unhealthy too. 6-11 servings of grain though! The "food pyramid" was beaten into my head repeatedly as a child, with some suspicious board of agriculture sponsored exercises too. Turns out it was total bullshit. We feed our kids the worst garbage, at least we did from 1992-2005. A nation should want its kids to g…
Well at least they are big now.
The strong part? I dunno cut out recess and PE?
Re: For decades, government steered millions away from whole milk. Was that wrong?
#70"[Whole milk] was banned from school lunch programs." Most schools don't even have 1% milk, but they all have chocolate milk with tons of added sugar. Great healthy choice there.
Gah, school lunches and nutritional recommendations make me so mad. Everyone thought eggs and butter were unhealthy too. 6-11 servings of grain though! The "food pyramid" was beaten into my head repeatedly as a child, with some suspicious board of agriculture sponsored exercises too. Turns out it was total bullshit. We feed our kids the worst garbage, at least we did from 1992-2005. A nation should want its kids to g…
Times changed. The Pentagon (who owns school lunch program) set their standards because they rejected too many recruits for malnutrition in WWII, usually insufficient calories/stunted growth.
The 50's saw that change with widespread refrigeration and more varied diets. The standards should have changed but once instituted change comes hard.
Now the Pentagon responds to obesity by restricting school lunch calories. Misguided in my opinion; school kids are growing fast and need good calories. Restrict calories at lunch, and the kids eat junk after school to make up for it. I would much rather schools provided unrestricted salad bars etc. instead of trying to put all the kids on a diet.