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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by nogridbag »

macspoofing wrote: post #679
MatthiasP wrote: post #276

That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years, they always managed to introduce some fatal flaw in their premium laptops, from weird keyboard layouts to bad fan management software. Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.

>That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years Dell XPS line-up is quite nice, and on par with any Apple laptop.

That's what all the Dell XPS reviews said 2 or 3 years ago too. So I thought I would surprise my wife with a Dell XPS Signature Edition laptop for Christmas. Everything from the touchpad, to the display, to the flexing keyboard, to the cheap looking hinge was truly awful and no where near the quality of the equivalent Macbook of the time. A few months later she got a Macbook Air from her company and the XPS has been pretty much collecting dust ever since. I'm sure the quality has gone up in the last 2-3 years, but since that experience I'm much less trusting of the reviews online.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by cm2187 »

untog wrote: post #694
cm2187 wrote: post #676

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But then you loose the USB port. But the main problem of USB adapters is that they don't like being unplugged and plugged back which happens quite frequently with a laptop. With a real port connectivity is pretty much instantaneous. I used USB adapters for a while on a MacBook pro and came to the conclusion that I will never ever buy a laptop without ethernet ports. What I wonder is why they don't come up with a mini…

> What I wonder is why they don't come up with a mini-ethernet port format? I suspect that is part of the problem. The plug is just so big - though IMO Thunderbolt and USB adapters work OK. Realise not everyone thinks this way, though. > But the main problem of USB adapters is that they don't like being unplugged and plugged back which happens quite frequently ? That's basically what they're designed for.

Maybe I am unlucky but I tried different adapters. The Apple ethernet adapter is not even plug and play on windows and requires a reboot. But even USB adapters take a while for drivers to load then I had all sort of problems: the connection regularly being recognised as 100Mbit when it should be gigabit or the USB adapter not being recognised after a couple of unplugging without a reboot.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by qznc »

togusa wrote: post #444
Karunamon wrote: post #435

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Hence "I can think of". That was copypasta from an internal wiki. I don't appreciate being accused of "disingenousness" from an off the cuff example. By the way, your example is precisely 12 characters longer than mine and still multiple times shorter than the equivalent PS, so if your goal was to somehow disprove PowerShell's annoying verboseness rather than snark at me, you failed.

(iwr "http://Slashdot.org").Links | select href Nearest Unix equivalent please.

    lynx -dump -listonly http://Slashdot.org
Not exactly, but close. Needs more work if you want to pipe it further.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by blakeyrat »

devit wrote: post #27
cwyers wrote: post #10

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I was really excited about the Surface Book even before they showed that the keyboard is detachable, then I about lost my mind. Holy wow.

How do they prevent the Surface Book from toppling over, given that all internals must be in the screen part? It seems this would either double the system weight (due to counterweights) or require an extra stand in the back.

The keyboard contains the nVidia GPU and another battery-- surely enough weight to hold the screen securely.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by eosrei »

bsilvereagle wrote: post #600
agumonkey wrote: post #491

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VAIO had an edge a while back. Toshiba still throw some stuff from time to time. Panasonic too but in the survivor category.

Somewhat off topic, what're Vaio users migrating to? I look every year or so to see what the current laptop offerings are, and nothing has convinced me to leave my 5+ year old Vaio.

I have a Sony Vaio Pro 13.3", 1080P, i7, 256GB SSD, 8GB, 2.3lbs, touchscreen; dual booting, but primarily running in Linux. It will cover me through this entire tech cycle.

The above mentioned "premium fatal flaw" in this case is the terrible internal wifi, but a micro-usb wifi has corrected that. I also fixed IMO the glossy display with a screen protector. Other than those two issues, I really like it.

When it's finally time to replace it I'll be looking at Microsoft or Dell. Maybe even Apple or ASUS. Probably not Lenovo, because they seem to be trying to destroy the Thinkpad brand. If I had to buy a computer right now without further research it would be the Dell XPS 13.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by lqdc13 »

wahsd wrote: post #680
tmd83 wrote: post #462

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This! At least from the initial look and spec it looks like they did a lot of the things right and put effort in making this nice. Yes there are things that maybe I can get by without but the basics looks fantastic. You don't chip $50 off a premium laptop and make it crappy. OEM just keeps making too many model at every price point .. at every 20 dollars it feels like. While I hate the almost singular choice for OsX…

>You don't chip $50 off a premium laptop and make it crappy I got that kind of feeling though when he was talking about both the Surface Pro 4 and Surface Book. The SP4 is thicker than it could be because you wanted to add a full USB-A??? WHY?? and there are USB-A and not USB-C and a full SD slot on the Book ... WHY??? It made me ill to see them add that shit. It felt like typical MS snatching defeat from the jaws of…

Full SD makes complete sense. Many cameras use an SD card.

Now you need a separate adapter to carry around with your laptop instead of a nice built-in SD card reader.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by [deleted] »

cm2187 wrote: post #676
soapdog wrote: post #667

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I use a surface and I have an ethernet to USB adapter, works pretty well.

But then you loose the USB port. But the main problem of USB adapters is that they don't like being unplugged and plugged back which happens quite frequently with a laptop. With a real port connectivity is pretty much instantaneous. I used USB adapters for a while on a MacBook pro and came to the conclusion that I will never ever buy a laptop without ethernet ports. What I wonder is why they don't come up with a mini…

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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by babuskov »

scholia wrote: post #536
babuskov wrote: post #376

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While I agree with the rest, what do you mean by "serious GPU"? GPUs seem exactly the same as MBP offers.

13-inch MacBook Pro has Intel Iris 6100 Graphics, no?

Yes. And Surface has 5200. It's even worse.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by danudey »

tmd83 wrote: post #462
MatthiasP wrote: post #276

That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years, they always managed to introduce some fatal flaw in their premium laptops, from weird keyboard layouts to bad fan management software. Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.

This! At least from the initial look and spec it looks like they did a lot of the things right and put effort in making this nice. Yes there are things that maybe I can get by without but the basics looks fantastic. You don't chip $50 off a premium laptop and make it crappy. OEM just keeps making too many model at every price point .. at every 20 dollars it feels like. While I hate the almost singular choice for OsX…

And every price point has one thing you want that the other ones don't have, so you end up sophie's choice-ing your way through Dell's website. And then you go from their Home to their Business site and the prices, features, bundles, and add-ons are different for the same hardware.

It's the same reason Google started making Nexus phones: so that someone, somewhere, would make a good Android phone without messing something up.

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