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Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by RamseyMcGrath » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 6:56 PM UTC

Touche wrote: post #387

Karunamon wrote: post #374

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Which is fine when you're starting out, but infinitely frustrating after you have an idea of what you're doing. A recent example, looking for errors in windows logs: Get-Childitem "C:\Windows\" -recurse -Include *.log ` | Select-String "Error" -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue ` | Group-Object filename | Sort-Object count -descending Closest *NIX analogue I can think of would be grep -r Error /var/log/ | sort English is…

I'd also wager Select-String is an order of magnitude slower than grep or ag.

You'd be wrong (at least for grep) http://www.jwgoerlich.us/blogengine/post/2013/01/21/Grep-ver...

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by samstave » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 6:56 PM UTC

I have a surface pro 3 and it's the first windows based machine I've touched in five years and I love the thing.

I really want the book now though...

The keyboard for the pro 3 is awesome. I really love how solidly the magnetic attachment feels for the keyboard, the backlit keys and the actual mechanical buttons...

It's fantastic.

I look forward to seeing how the book feels in person

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by superuser2 » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 6:56 PM UTC

pcunite wrote: post #363

MatthiasP wrote: post #276

That's what the OEMs get for not being able to put out a laptop that could compete with Apple in all those years, they always managed to introduce some fatal flaw in their premium laptops, from weird keyboard layouts to bad fan management software. Let's hope the Surface Book will be succesful and Apple finally gets serious competition in the premium laptop market.

Exactly this ... outside of ThinkPad, many Windows hardware options have been pretty embarrassing.

ThinkPad is pretty embarrassing; you're supporting a company that decided to MITM all its users traffic to inject advertising using factory-installed malware by trusting the same certificate, whose private key can be extracted from any Lenovo product and trivially used to MITM all the others.

Lenovo needs to fail hard and fast. I recognize we'll probably never get those responsible into prison, but at least we can make sure they never work again.

If you wouldn't buy or recommend a Volkswagen after dieselgate, you certainly shouldn't buy or recommend a Lenovo product after Superfish.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by cyrus_ » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 6:58 PM UTC

eric_cc wrote: post #186

mholt wrote: post #148

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I would just install Linux on it.

Good luck getting the touch screen to work flawlessly with your Linux install

Not sure about this particular machine, but touchscreen laptops work just fine with Linux nowadays from what I can gather.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by awa » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 6:58 PM UTC

blumkvist wrote: post #440

hackuser wrote: post #330

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Can OneNote data be exported to some open, editable format? I like the idea of OneNote's functionality, but I worry about having my data trapped in that application.

.docx, .xps, .pdf

There's also an api you can use to pull data out.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by gcb0 » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 6:58 PM UTC

huac wrote: post #448

pcunite wrote: post #363

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Exactly this ... outside of ThinkPad, many Windows hardware options have been pretty embarrassing.

Yes, and while Thinkpad is excellent, it's not really a 'cool' option. The Surface Book's design (and price point) places it solidly as a competitor to Macs.

i'd take the rubber coated ones over the cold and sharp metal ones you call 'cool' any time.

but i guess everyone in SF just use macbooks on their desks at all times.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by rickyc091 » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 6:58 PM UTC

elipsey wrote: post #219

elif wrote: post #201

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yes. I run ubuntu on my surface pro. Everything works well, with reasonably good battery life (not as good as win10, obviously). it is a painful install process, but that should change completely with ubuntu 15.10

Why painful? Can you desable secureboot, but UEFI on Ubuntu is still sucky?

Ubuntu 14 doesn't support a lot of the latest hardware at the moment. I had an Intel i7 NUC and installing ubuntu 14 on it was a nightmare... You fix one thing to move the installer, another thing breaks. It's trial and error. Ubuntu 15 was just straight forward, one click install.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by PedroBatista » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 6:58 PM UTC

liquidise wrote: post #397

aresant wrote: post #366

Wow, this page is a mess - here's an element based breakdown of the switching elements in their presentation: MSFT: - nav 1 - nav 2 - header with what sounds like a call to action, but no button to buy? - hero image with text overlaid that has terrible contrast nobody will read - inter-page menus with some insane zooming function that scared my browser - another hero image - 3 columns - maybe buttons? no not clickabl…

Page on a full sized browser on a 13" screen with ublock: https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmyi3jjwq25w0d1/surface_book.png?d...

They are getting pounded with traffic, give it a minute.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by kayone » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 6:59 PM UTC

ksherlock wrote: post #369

rbnacharya wrote: post #76

Anybody have any idea about memory? How much gigs of RAM it compromises ?

* 128GB / Core Intel i5 - 8GB ($1499) * 256GB / Core Intel i5 - 8GB ($1699) * 256GB / Core Intel i5 - 8GB / dGPU ($1899) * 256GB / Core Intel i7 - 8GB / dGPU ($2099) * 512GB / Core Intel i7 - 16GB / dGPU ($2699)

Are any of those quad cores? I've been trying to find the actual cpu models but I can't seem to find them mentioned anywhere.

Re: New Windows 10 Devices From Microsoft

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Post by mitchell_h » Tue, Oct 06, 2015, 7:00 PM UTC

exelius wrote: post #301

pcunite wrote: post #249

What Microsoft has done today is prove they're very focused about providing a top of the line personal computing experience. You can argue about server, but when it comes to applications (which are floating windows), Microsoft Windows has proven they can keep that title for their operating system. I'm glad to see them take ownership over the hardware. That has always been the black mark. I build my own PCs and always…

Microsoft's server software is actually top-notch and has been for years. Server 2003 was rough, but after that MS really started improving the management tools and allowing a lot more command line via powershell, etc. And in corporate America, Microsoft's Server products are near-ubiquitous. Consider that most of the in-house workflow tools at any company are built in Sharepoint -- and Sharepoint is actually a great…

I've been the linux guy in many meetings arguing for Exchange/Outlook and AD. Those two tools are best of breed by far. AD is a HUGE standout when it comes to centralized AAA controls.

Sharepoint is sharepoint. It just doesn't suck as much as everything else.