The design reminds me of my 2005 plastic iBook for some reason. And I totally mean this as a compliment. Probably the best device I've ever owned (adjusting for contemporary tech).
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I was really excited about the Surface Book even before they showed that the keyboard is detachable, then I about lost my mind. Holy wow.
How do they prevent the Surface Book from toppling over, given that all internals must be in the screen part? It seems this would either double the system weight (due to counterweights) or require an extra stand in the back.
Well the keyboard is in the stand, part of the battery is probably in the stand, all of the ports are in the stand, the dedicated GPU is in the stand, plus the stand actually lays flat while the screen is mostly upright so in any normal position the stand could only be a fraction of the screen and still not cause it to topple right? I guess the combination of all of that and perhaps a little extra counterweight if necessary makes it work out okay.
A quick comparison, Microsoft cites 1.6 pounds as the weight. I'm assuming it's the screen only as the Surface 4 Pro (the tablet computer) alone is 1.73 pounds, and the Macbook Pro is 3.48 pounds. If the stand held the GPU, a battery pack, keyboard (and possible counterweights) and weighed as much as the screen, it'd be 3.2 pounds and still a fair bit lighter than the MBP.
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#123I'm very curious how well the trackpad on the Surface Book works. I've had MacBooks and the HP Spectre; the Sprectre is awesome but the trackpad...I mean holy shit it's just absolutely awful to the point where I've pretty much stopped using it. So how good is this trackpad and does it work like a MacBook's where two fingers = right click versus this weird obsession PC vendors seem to have about dividing a single trac…
generally with standard drivers you should be able to configure the click mode. I don't know about HP in particular though.
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#124Surface Book looks neat but is it an admission that the Surface Pro and its flexible keyboard, kickstand, etc. perhaps aren't the best design?
> Surface Book looks neat but is it an admission that the Surface Pro and its flexible keyboard, kickstand, etc. perhaps aren't the best design?
Seems to me its an expression of the basic fact known to everyone (well, except Apple for a while, but even they've mostly come around to it) that there is no one "best design" for all users and uses, and that different users (and even the same user for different uses) have different needs and preferences resulting in different "best designs".
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#125I think the Surface Book is finally something that can give the MacBook Pro line a run for its money, this should be interesting.
Only problem for me is that price... $1499 starting price is a bit high for my tastes, though I'd love to have one otherwise.
I drooled when I saw it but I don't think I can justify a nearly $2k price tag. 128 GB isn't enough and I'd like the detachable GPU, which puts it at:
- 256GB/i5/8GB/dGPU: $1899
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not all the internals, apparently the GPU is in the keyboard (there's an Intel GPU on the CPU die that's used in tablet mod).
Most of the battery mass is in the keyboard. Not sure what battery life is when you detatch the screen - they didn't say.
I was hoping you could bend the screen all the way back but I guess that'd make the tablet too heavy?
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Linux does not support hybrid graphics properly. (I've got a Zbook G2, dockable, Nvidia + Intel. I'm developing for Linux, so it'd be great to run Linux on it, but it's not practical at all.)
This saddens me.
Don't be. You can just use the intel driver and use the NVIDIA GPU for compute purposes only. All of this can be achieved WITHOUT hybrid graphics on Linux.
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#128I think the Surface Book is finally something that can give the MacBook Pro line a run for its money, this should be interesting.
Except it's still about the OS. It has always been about the OS. I'd use a $400 HP from walmart if it ran the latest version of OS X flawlessly.
Interesting. The general consensus I get when talking to people, especially devs, is that it's about apple's quality of hardware.
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of the battery mass is in the keyboard. Not sure what battery life is when you detatch the screen - they didn't say.
I was hoping you could bend the screen all the way back but I guess that'd make the tablet too heavy?
You can just invert the screen and bend it over the stand. I'm guessing the problem would have been making the hinge solid and rigid enough more than a weight problem.
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