Great. I was all ready to get a Surface Pro 4 and now there's the new Surface Book to consider!
My biggest question is how does performance differ between the SP4 and Surface Book (detached from keyboard)?
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#112PixelSense is apparently their name for what drives the pen now (rather than Wacom or N-trig). I think they bought n-trig and have developed it further maybe?
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#113In closed state, the surface book has a giant gap between screen and keyboard ( https://goo.gl/n5B7Te ). I think, it can easily happen that things in your backpack slip between screen and keyboard and damage the screen. That is why the old Thinkpads used to have a "click" mechanism.
> I think, it can easily happen that things in your backpack slip between screen and keyboard and damage the screen.
Most laptop-designed backpacks have a padded compartment designed to hold just the laptop; if there aren't other things in that compartment, then that shouldn't be an issue. (If there are, and they aren't the kind of small, loose things that could slip between the screen and keyboard, same thing.)
> That is why the old Thinkpads used to have a "click" mechanism.
I always thought the click-locking mechanism on most older laptops (not just old Thinkpads) was there to reduce the wear on the hinge.
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#114Surface Book looks neat but is it an admission that the Surface Pro and its flexible keyboard, kickstand, etc. perhaps aren't the best design?
Seems more like an admission that there is a spectrum of users that want/need different things. Surface Pro is the tablet to replace your laptop and Surface Book is the laptop to replace your tablet.
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
> To me, OS/X's quality has been slipping, I'm amused to see the 'OS/X' typo still lives on, more than a decade since OS/2's been relevant :) On topic, I've just upgraded to the latest version of OS X and it really seems rock solid. Fastest, most stable, and most secure version yet. Still a bit of an evolutionary dead end though, in that there have been no moves to add touch support beyond multitouch trackpads. I adm…
Probably apple's next move is not to add touch to os x but to release an iOS laptop to replace the MacBook air, they could call it an iBook. It's pretty clear OS X is legacy tech and on the roadmap for being phased out.
The big step for that would be XCode for iOS. Currently, iOS is one of the few platforms where the platform does not let you develop for itself.
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#116I think the Surface Book is finally something that can give the MacBook Pro line a run for its money, this should be interesting.
Except it's still about the OS. It has always been about the OS. I'd use a $400 HP from walmart if it ran the latest version of OS X flawlessly.
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#117Curious how Microsoft can enter the market this openly. Don't they have an agreement of some sort with hardware manufacturers ( HP, Dell etc) that they won't enter the market?
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#118I think the Surface Book is finally something that can give the MacBook Pro line a run for its money, this should be interesting.
Only problem for me is that price... $1499 starting price is a bit high for my tastes, though I'd love to have one otherwise.
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I guess moving to USB-C is asking for too much?
Unfortunately, they chose to support 99.9(999?)% of existing USB cables instead.
You can always make that argument. If you want progress, you need to Think Different. Intel and Microsoft have enough muscle to get 100 million PC's shipped in 12 months wth a new standard. Of course, no one said that they only have to ship USB-C.
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Hybrids have a very different audience compared to regular laptops (ultrabooks), as they're structurally very different (that is, they are a compromise by definition), so I wouldn't compare them directly. Don't get me wrong, I have one instead of a regular laptop, but I can see how people used to the latter would feel uncomfortable with them, unless they have a strong motivation to move to the hybrid form factor.
> Hybrids have a very different audience compared to regular laptops (ultrabooks) Ultrabooks/Subnotebooks are already a compromise. We've made the transition from massive 30-40W CPUs to 15W-CPUs for mainstream notebook over the last 4 years, where net performance for notebooks stagnated at best (and regressed during the first year or two). Going from there to whatever hardware the Surface Book uses won't a big leap a…
To me it's not a question of CPU power, but form factor and user experience. Hybrids have for me two big drawbacks --- and it's really subjective:
- I like small tablets and larger laptops (13.3 min, 14 prefered). So an hybrid is either a too big tablet or a too little PC, often both;
- hybrids are top-heavy, and I don't like having an hinge. I really want a LAP-top, and a ultrabook is perfect for this. An hybrid, not so much (I've heard about "lapability", not convinced ;).
Both are intrinsic trade-offs of hybrids. So I stick to small tablets + 14" ultrabook, and just don't bother with hybrids. But to each its own.