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In China, Your Credit Score Is Affected by Your Political Opinions

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Re: In China, Your Credit Score Is Affected by Your Political Opinions

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Post by United857 »

zcbenz wrote: post #12

There is no evidence that the credit score is affected by political opinions, the only quote “Sesame Credit, however, also uses other data to calculate the scores, such as a person’s hobbies, interaction with friends, shopping habits and lifestyle.” says nothing about political opinions, and I can verify there is no related thing on Sesame Credit's website (Chinese is my native language). Also Sesame Credit is a priv…

In the US, the credit scores are maintained by private companies as well. Yet, they still can potentially affect your interactions with the government (e.g. applying for government jobs requiring security clearance).

Re: In China, Your Credit Score Is Affected by Your Political Opinions

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Post by awakeasleep »

amyjess wrote: post #80
lmm wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should be accountable for their actions, not for expressing an opinion .

You should read the parable of The Racist Tree. http://lardcave.net/text/the_racist_tree.html

This is sort of a nit-pick, and also something I think is an important distinction. It's definitely aside from the point.

But that tree was tolerant at the end. That is exactly what tolerance means. Thats a very important distinction to me, because while it's all the law or government can ask of people, it misses the point that we are supposed to love our neighbors. The tree didn't open it's heart to people of different races, it didn't realize that the world is better when we love each other. All it did was tolerate.

Re: In China, Your Credit Score Is Affected by Your Political Opinions

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Post by Symbiote »

nxb wrote: post #65
oblio wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where in Europe?

South Eastern Europe. I'm curious about how common it is elsewhere in Europe too.

As someone living in Western/Northern Europe, it's not clear to me what you mean. Can you describe it a bit more?

The British government knew where I worked, through the tax system. They knew, more-or-less, where I lived, by my registration to vote (compulsory, though not well enforced as far as I know). Is that what you don't like?

Re: In China, Your Credit Score Is Affected by Your Political Opinions

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Post by Symbiote »

1971genocide wrote: post #3

Does anyone know why pia is blocked in the UK ? Page is not opening.

According to https://www.blocked.org.uk/ there's an SSL timeout with Sky and Virgin Media.

I'm not sure how reliable that tool is, testing with ThePirateBay.gd gives "dnserror" for all the ISPs except one, but only adds a blocked since time for one (BT).

Re: In China, Your Credit Score Is Affected by Your Political Opinions

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Post by ByatchMatch »

nxb wrote: post #65
oblio wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where in Europe?

South Eastern Europe. I'm curious about how common it is elsewhere in Europe too.

I live in SEE. While we did have "work books" containing our employment history they were eliminated about 7 years ago. All that is now stored electronically in a central place. And it's used as evidence of payed benefits for x amount of time, eligibility for retirement and similar things.

Re: In China, Your Credit Score Is Affected by Your Political Opinions

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Post by lmm »

lbebber wrote: post #53
lmm wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should be accountable for their actions, not for expressing an opinion .

No, people should be accountable for their opinions as well - you can't simply say that black people are stupid (in the John Derbyshire example) and expect that people won't get mad at you.

Plenty of people were mad about the Chinese guy's comments about the stock exchange too.

Re: In China, Your Credit Score Is Affected by Your Political Opinions

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Post by lmm »

amyjess wrote: post #80
lmm wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People should be accountable for their actions, not for expressing an opinion .

You should read the parable of The Racist Tree. http://lardcave.net/text/the_racist_tree.html

Parables are what people do when they know they don't have a proper argument.

Re: In China, Your Credit Score Is Affected by Your Political Opinions

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Post by visarga »

throwaway7767 wrote: post #54
visarga wrote: post #50

I foresaw this happening when the Snowden leaks broke out, but I am still surprised to see it come so soon. With so much data in their hands, it's not hard to predict that they would want to boil it down to a simple numerical score. Google does it with Page Rank and it decides everything with regard to search engine visibility. If the gov. took a log of someone's search engine queries, social networking posts, travel…

> The counterpoint is that people could use this same system to rate their actions before they act. Imagine a plugin that would warn you before you post some opinion on social networks or add someone to your friend list that it would decrease your rating by 10 points(!) Then you could select which actions you want to do and avoid reducing your score. That would make the rating system meaningless. No, it would make th…

> This is the end result of the chilling effect mass surveillance has on human communications.

The only private place we could have is in our heads, or maybe if we wear one of those "laptop socks" and play with a device disconnected from the web (LOL). Now, seriously, we could still discuss politics anonymously, but we need a guardian to keep us from revealing too much so as our identity never to be known. An anonymous forum with AI working hard to protect people from detection.

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