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Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Well, in this case, Facebook indirectly gave Violet Blue a lot of new media exposure? I had no clue to her existence until now.

I don't like Facebook, but in this case, I'm glad FB didn't cave in and give Violet Blue her account back--just because 'She has a friend at FB'. I don't like inside special favors.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

#32
post #11

That was weird. I stopped using Facebook a few years ago (don't remember when), because something trivial about the site annoyed me (don't remember what). The author seems to have written many accounts of what a terrible company Facebook is, how LGBT people are treated appallingly by them, how they're starting in on refugees and how they're ruining privacy for everyone. And then jumped through every possible hoop in…

> And then jumped through every possible hoop in order to keep using their website! I don't think you read the entire article. Her goal at this point is to delete her account[1], which she cannot do until she regains control of the account. She's at a stalemate right now. [1] "But now I just want out. I want my account deleted. I want the bullshit, inaccurate pages Facebook creates about me without my consent gone, t…

I tried reading the entire article, I really did. But it kept jumping around and losing focus from one thing to another that she was upset about.

Eventually I figured out the answer to the question I came here for. It turns out that the reason the author is sitting at home crying on a Saturday night is because he/she/it is an emotionally unstable wreck who can't deal with life's minor inconveniences and enjoys creating drama where none exists.

If you get locked out of your account and refuse (out of paranoia) to prove your identity to get back into it... well, there's not much that they can do for you. Don't like it? Don't use facebook.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

#33

I'd like to see a wiki documenting the harm that comes from Facebook, sort of like how https://reddit.com/r/gunsarecool documents mass shootings. Violet Blue is lucky because she has a platform and her problems will get notice. Everyone else just deals with their life quietly, and we the public don't get a good grasp of the problem.

> Everyone else just deals with their life quietly

And it works out great for most of us.

Want to deal with facebook? Use facebook. Don't want to deal with facebook? Don't use facebook. Not that tricky.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

#34
post #25

"This is reality. This is not theory. This is not assertions on Hacker News about how you must have something to hide if you want to keep something private. This is not about a man in a position of power and influence, who has industry privilege and respect for his wealth and status, at Google or Facebook saying that anonymity, or multiple online identities, demotes a 'lack of credibility’. We don’t care of you belie…

That link is strange. Person is using Facebook. They then voluntarily send Facebook their birth certificate and are bewildered and upset that Facebook used that info and corrected (read: edited) their profile? I really dislike Facebook but come on, you signed up for this. If you don't like Facebook's policies (and you shouldn't), then don't use it. What gives anyone the right to use someone else's service, then dictate how that service should work?

And even supposing we create some new privacy law, how would that even work? The right to identify with any name? That can't be signed away at all?

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

#35

I'm sorry to hear you don't agree with the Facbeook's policies. I agree with most of what you wrote, including the right to privacy. The Facebook is an advertising channel, and they make money by targeting ads. So, it's not surprising they want to know more about you. Solution: Don't use the Facebook.

It hasn't been called "The Facebook" in ten years.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

#36
post #5
post #3

I'm sorry she had a bad experience (and if the situation was triggered by something she posted that's horrible), but from a security point of view, if the automatic security questions can't be answered and you can't provide an "official government ID", the only way that you should be able to get access back to your account is "from a favor from someone on the inside that knows that you are you". If there's any way th…

She's not saying that Facebook shouldn't have security procedures. She's saying that Facebook's security procedures aren't designed properly and that they don't work for her. Plenty of identity providers (she cites Apple's policies in particular) have more reasonable ways of recovering your account.

She's saying they're not secure, but quite the opposite is true: they're too secure.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

#37

> facebook’s account security is apparently based on its users knowing what every one of of its friends looks like (do you?) This isn't central to the post or anything, but uh, is this really that uncommon...?

People accept friends requests on Facebook and social media sites from people they don't know all the time. Some seem to treat it like a game - how many friends they can collect. Others because of peer pressure or not wanting to miss out on work related opportunities and a whole host of other reasons.

Social media relationships are not equivalent as your offline friends, relatives and acquaintances.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

#38
post #7

I don't get why Facebook doesn't do account recovery via email. The photo ID your friends thing is ducking annoying; I have a hard time passing it. I have the 2SV thing set on my account, so haven't seen the ID challenge in a long time.

Doesn't FB see itself against email and would prefer to be the replacement? FB doesn't even allow reporting security issues without signing up. I found a rather strong phishing attempt going on and had no way to report it. Oh well.

They might also have data that shows people often get email compromised at the same time. Or that picking out faces works better (faster recovery?)

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

#39

I've no idea why she's put up with FB for long. I've none of the issues she has with Facebook, I just hate it on privacy reasons. So... I don't use it. But if she's gotta use it just submit fake ID. Scan your license or passport, and edit information. This works fine and there is nothing wrong with it. Complaining about their security policies... Eh I'm gonna guess that FB engineers probably want to protect user acco…

> FB is a private company

Facebook is a public company. I'm surprised anyone reading HN would have missed their rather high profile IPO.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

#40
> Facebook’s account security is apparently based on its users knowing what every one of of its friends looks like (do you?) …

Well yeah. You're supposed to be able to recognise your friends in that test if it's really your account. I don't see what is the problem? I've passed these tests several time, you are presented with 6 different pictures for each friend (so it's hard to fail) and you can re-pass the test several times with different friends if you fail the first times.

I stopped reading after that. Why would I read about someone ranting about her fake facebook account being locked?

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