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Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by late2part »

I'm sorry to hear you don't agree with the Facbeook's policies. I agree with most of what you wrote, including the right to privacy. The Facebook is an advertising channel, and they make money by targeting ads. So, it's not surprising they want to know more about you. Solution: Don't use the Facebook.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by powera »

I'm sorry she had a bad experience (and if the situation was triggered by something she posted that's horrible), but from a security point of view, if the automatic security questions can't be answered and you can't provide an "official government ID", the only way that you should be able to get access back to your account is "from a favor from someone on the inside that knows that you are you".

If there's any way that she can just say she's herself and skip the security procedures on a regular basis, then they aren't security and anyone else can just do the same thing to skip the procedures, so they might as well not even have them.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by powera »

powera wrote: post #3

I'm sorry she had a bad experience (and if the situation was triggered by something she posted that's horrible), but from a security point of view, if the automatic security questions can't be answered and you can't provide an "official government ID", the only way that you should be able to get access back to your account is "from a favor from someone on the inside that knows that you are you". If there's any way th…

also: "de-anonymizing refugees usually precedes murder on a grand scale" - that's an aggressively outrageous claim. "Bad things happen in the world" does not mean "if we ignore the world, nothing bad can happen". And I can't even argue with someone who disagrees.

EDIT: to people down-voting, how is her claim at all reasonable? there are lots of refugees that have been murdered in nameless graves. if anything, the whole "say her name" would suggest that people on facebook would be less likely to be murdered by a dictatorial state. but apparently since she doesn't want to be nice to facebook, they are literally acting as a conspirator to mass murder.

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Post by panic »

powera wrote: post #3

I'm sorry she had a bad experience (and if the situation was triggered by something she posted that's horrible), but from a security point of view, if the automatic security questions can't be answered and you can't provide an "official government ID", the only way that you should be able to get access back to your account is "from a favor from someone on the inside that knows that you are you". If there's any way th…

She's not saying that Facebook shouldn't have security procedures. She's saying that Facebook's security procedures aren't designed properly and that they don't work for her. Plenty of identity providers (she cites Apple's policies in particular) have more reasonable ways of recovering your account.

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Post by gull »

powera wrote: post #3

I'm sorry she had a bad experience (and if the situation was triggered by something she posted that's horrible), but from a security point of view, if the automatic security questions can't be answered and you can't provide an "official government ID", the only way that you should be able to get access back to your account is "from a favor from someone on the inside that knows that you are you". If there's any way th…

> the only way that you should be

Well, your friends could vet for you too.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by awakeasleep »

I'd like to see a wiki documenting the harm that comes from Facebook, sort of like how https://reddit.com/r/gunsarecool documents mass shootings.

Violet Blue is lucky because she has a platform and her problems will get notice. Everyone else just deals with their life quietly, and we the public don't get a good grasp of the problem.

Re: Why I’m sitting at home crying on a Saturday afternoon

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Post by rdl »

I respect her (disclaimer: I know her IRL from conferences and stuff) for not doing the "hey, I know a Facebook employee" solution; that is almost always my first response to problems with services, but doesn't scale, and doesn't help the actually vulnerable people who don't know people.
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