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Introducing Pixel C

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Re: Introducing Pixel C

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post #66

The only thing I took away from that page was the fact that they removed the pipe symbol. Basically rendering 20 years of linux programs garbage. (I guess we can remap it, but wtf). The pipe symbol is like the windows-button of linux – except way more powerful.

Hard keyboards on mobile devices are meant to make typing faster. Soft keyboards enable you to easily access symbols and other less-often used parts of a character set quite a bit more easily than using shift keys on a hard keyboard. You also have handwriting recognition that recognizes diacritical marks, which makes those easy, too.

You can also use any bluetooth or usb keyboard with any Android device.

Re: Introducing Pixel C

#83
post #35

> The Pixel C takes an entirely new approach to the tablet experience. It looks like any other tablet.

It's so entirely new that it looks remarkably like a Surface Pro and iPad Pro. Except they forgot to copy the stylus, because that would be getting the point.

Re: Introducing Pixel C

#84
post #27

Why is this running Android instead of Chrome OS? Internal politics are clearly at work. Moreover, why isn't there a stylus. I really, really, appreciate 1:sqrt(2), but without an accurate, ultra low-latency stylus you can't treat it like a pad to express ideas on. The build looks fantastic, though. Arrrrgh, so much promise...

I think this marks a step in Google's jump into hardware. An important one to denote that "Pixel" does not mean Chrome - it means Google. The previous Pixel, even the first was the "Chromebook Pixel" This is the "Pixel C" One might fathom we could see a "Nexus Pixel" in the future.

What "Pixel" denotes is "cargo cult dogfooding." It's when you sell your customers dry kibble dog food and you have some high-end dogfood around for your engineers, some of the canned stuff that you let the really clever dogs cover in veal demi-glace through Crouton. (Yes, I understand that I'm comparing Ubuntu to something top of the line, it's not a perfect metaphor.)

Google, outside of their smartphones, makes computer products for children. I'm serious about this, I'm not being condescending to Google users, I mean actual children. Android tablets are the tablets you give to a four-year-old to occupy them on a long car trip or while you're making dinner. They're small enough for a child to hold comfortably and they're cheap enough for you to not stress out what the child is going to do with them. Chromebooks have caught on in exactly one market, education, because children can be real assholes and giving them a computer that can't actually run software eliminates a lot of the headaches that come from giving Turing-complete devices to real assholes.

But Google engineers aren't children. They want real computers. What they probably really want are MacBooks, just like everyone else. But MacBooks aren't dogfood. The Chromebook Pixel exists pretty much entirely so that Google can claim to dogfood ChromeOS and engineers can get a laptop that works for them, if you consider putting up with Ubuntu over OS X working for them. It's all an elaborate charade, in that running a high-end Chromebook Pixel and using Ubuntu through Crouton or just wiping the thing has about as much in common as the $200 Chromebooks that most ChromeOS users actually have as just giving the Google engineers their MacBooks, but Google seems to regard dogfooding as something more honored in the breach than in the observance, so that's just par for the course.

So why is this a Pixel and not a Nexus device? Well one, because Google makes it themselves. But why are they making this themselves? Or at all? Because Google engineers want a Surface or iPad Pro. And people who work for Google are about the only market for a Surface or iPad Pro knockoff running Android, because Android is such a terrible tablet ecosystem for anyone who has app needs beyond Netflix and Toca Pet Doctor and I don't see this thing moving the needle on that point. And since it's running Android and not ChromeOS you can't even get any of that Ubuntu demi-glace on it. So even by the standards of the Pixel line this is such an awkward compromise between dogfood and something edible.

Re: Introducing Pixel C

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Pixels have been shipping since February, 2013, so your comment is a few years too late. :)

Chromebook Pixels, yes. Those have a page at https://www.google.com/chromebook/pixel/ which is definitely far less unambiguous.

shrug People get kerfluffled about the strangest things.

Re: Introducing Pixel C

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post #60

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You guys are misunderstanding the purpose of the page. It clearly says this is a SNEAK PEAK. It's like a teaser instead of a trailer. Obviously it will suck if you look at it as a product page, because it simply isn't one.

Sneak peek. http://theoatmeal.com/comics/sneak_peek

https://twitter.com/stealthmountain

Re: Introducing Pixel C

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post #71

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> Android on the other hand has very limited provisioning tools It would be orders of magnitude more cost efficient to just create those tools, compared to creating an entire new operating system.

Considering that the "new operating system" is pretty much Chrome running over Linux without any Window Manager, I'm not that sure.

The cost is not just in the form of development expenses. It's about having to support two systems, creating a confusing message for consumers, having to foster and support two different app ecosystems, marketing two different competing platforms, etc.

Re: Introducing Pixel C

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post #69
post #49

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Exactly. The point of the page is to pique your interest, ideally to the point where you decide to sign up for email updates. In many ways, giving more concrete information works against that goal, so the page doesn't do that.

But we don't want that, hence the complaints. Sign up for a newsletter just to get the technical specs for a random tablet? Come on. Marketers needs to stop taking drugs.

The complaints I replied to above were directly to a product page, and this is no product page. Therefore their complaints are simply misguided.

And what you want is irrelevant, are they not allowed to put up a website like this you think?

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