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Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by devit »

zurn wrote: post #190
shadeless wrote: post #84

As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

The useful life is limited by duration of security updates, if you care about such things. Google are strictly following their recently announced 18 month/3 year rule. Eg no Stagefright update to 5.1.1 for the Nexus 7 v1 even though it was just a few months previously updated to 5.1.1 This means you probably should only buy Nexus devices when they're new to market, unless you're happy with a 18 month lifespan for you…

That's ridiculous.

They should commit to providing updates to the phones forever.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by akhilcacharya »

shadeless wrote: post #84

As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

I come fro the same background and I agree for the most part.

However, I have been impressed by the 6P - I might consider the $550 64GB instead of switching to the iPhone 6S.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by EwanToo »

tdkl wrote: post #524
EwanToo wrote: post #492

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If you're using a Nexus 5X or 6P on Android 6, then probably yes. Android 5 has full disk encryption but was disabled by default on the Nexus 5 (and most other phones) due to performance issues.

Do the Nexus 5X or 6P finally have hardware encryption support ? I didn't notice any mention of those, specially because they failed miserably last year parading full disk encryption on Nexus 6 and got bitten when reviews showed the performance degradation and lack of hardware encryption.

It's a good question, I've looked and the Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 has the support needed, but I don't know if it'll be enabled by default or not in Android 6.

If it's not, then Google are starting to take the piss..

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by maxerickson »

devit wrote: post #531
zurn wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The useful life is limited by duration of security updates, if you care about such things. Google are strictly following their recently announced 18 month/3 year rule. Eg no Stagefright update to 5.1.1 for the Nexus 7 v1 even though it was just a few months previously updated to 5.1.1 This means you probably should only buy Nexus devices when they're new to market, unless you're happy with a 18 month lifespan for you…

That's ridiculous. They should commit to providing updates to the phones forever.

I hope they don't, I don't want to pay for such a thing.

Given the US cell carriers move towards a leasing model for devices, I think there are many people who don't want to pay for updates to 5 year old devices. I don't like that move, I'd prefer to see people paying upfront for cheap devices, but I take it as a evidence that more people want new devices than want updates forever.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by cptskippy »

aninhumer wrote: post #289
cptskippy wrote: post #109

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I really like the idea of wireless charging but the Qi devices I used left much to be desired. On the Nexus 4, the alignment is critical for it to work at all. The Nexus 5 fixed that issue with magnets but only if you had the official charger, otherwise you were back to trying to precisely align things. Randomly the Nexus 4 would freak out and forget it's charging or rapidly enter and exit charging mode, even on the…

I have a 3rd party wireless charger and I've never really had problems with alignment. As long as it's vaguely lined up with the pad it works fine. I can do it without looking from in bed.

> As long as it's vaguely lined up with the pad it works fine.

I guess my objection is that the effort necessary to align the device on a pad. It requires as much effort aligning as plugging it into a micro USB connector albeit it's only a 1 handed operation.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #191
shadeless wrote: post #84

As an owner of Nexus 5 I must say I'm a bit disappointed with this announcement. I was looking forwards to upgrading my almost two year old phone to Nexus 5x, but there doesn't seem to be a good reason unless Nexus 5 stops getting new Android updates. They have the same resolution, same amount of memory, same amount of storage. I don't shoot video, and I probably won't use fingerprint reader - but I do use wireless c…

My wife dropped her N5 a few weeks ago and cracked the screen (why are phones still so delicate?). We bought the new Moto G that night from Best Buy. Its pretty much a Nexus 5 but with a 720p screen instead of a 1080p screen. She loves having twice the battery life and the $179 pricepoint was mindblowing. The low and mid range in Android is very competitive. I'm not sure what this new N5 is bringing to the table othe…

+1 on the Moto G!

I just checked -- the 2nd gen model Moto G is $149.99 on the Motorola website (free shipping). Add a few bucks of tax and it's still one third the price of these other offerings. MicroSD slot, water resistant, 5" display, pure Android experience. This is what the Nexus should have been. Except unfortunately it lacks NFC, ditto the 2015 model.

If it had NFC I'd consider getting one myself, but unfortunately that's a showstopper for me -- I write NFC apps for a living.

If Moto would put NFC in this bad boy, they'd have a killer phone!

Now, the Moto X for $400 does have NFC - plus a microSD slot. Hmmm.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

xd1936 wrote: post #35

I'm gonna be all over that 5X with Project Fi.

+1 on Fi. It's the sleeper feature that justifies trading up to one of these bad boys.

I spend much of my time in wifi, as does my wife, and I suspect we can shave minimum $40 a month off our phone bills if we were both using Fi phones. It wouldn't take long to pay for itself.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by eyko »

JorgeGT wrote: post #490
dgemm wrote: post #434

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I'm still using a nexus 4 for this reason, and it's showing it's age. Kind of a letdown the 5X is so large. It is annoying that all phones coming out are trying to outdo each other on the same form factor that's both too large to fit in a pocket and too thin to have a useful battery.

I'm on the same N4 boat. I can't help but suspect that this push for bigger Android phones is part of a plan to make people use phones as tablets and consume much more web content (thus, revenue for Google). I like my phone to be small and convenient for mobility, not for browsing in my couch :|

The 2015 Moto G might interest you then.

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by shmerl »

jfoster wrote: post #513
shmerl wrote: post #481

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And the new one is slightly bigger. Nexus 5 was already on the edge of comfortable for me. Why did they make it bigger?

Isn't it taller, but less wide, and thinner? There total surface area is probably bigger (height increased about 1cm whereas width decreased about 3mm), but I think it will feel smaller in your hand. When holding a phone, it's generally the width & thickness that makes it feel big. Both of those dimensions decreased. If you're talking about thumb-stretching to reach the top of the screen, though, that might get a bit…

From what I see, the new one is 72.6 mm wide, and the old one is 69.2 mm. I.e. it's wider (which can make it annoying, if you can't comfortably hold it in your palm or in your front pocket).

Re: Google Nexus 5x and 6P

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Post by cbsmith »

chrsstrm wrote: post #319
mkozlows wrote: post #200

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So the thing is, the Nexus 5 was a near-perfect phone (especially considering it was released two years ago), and it's totally reasonable to think it's still doing the job very well -- it is. But that's a fact about the N5, not the N5X/6P. I mean, what would you want from a new phone that would show up on a spec sheet? Faster? Check, both of these are. The 808/810 aren't gigantic generational leaps over the 800, but…

>Plus the fingerprint thing is probably a bigger deal than you think Am I the only person on the planet who doesn't want a fingerprint reader on my phone? I don't want to secure anything of importance with my fingerprint - fingerprints are usernames, not passwords. This just feels like the equivalent of writing your password on a Post-It and sticking it to your monitor.

Yes but... passwords are useless.
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