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Re: Apple’s approach to privacy

#131

Apple is in a good position in the market to do this, but it is just really hard to trust any US company. They say they will never give anyone access to their servers but how can they make that promise when they don't make the laws? As an aside I am finding it really difficult to delete my iCloud account, in fact it seems that is impossible.

> but how can they make that promise when they don't make the laws? I agree, like Lavabit... Lavabit had all the best intentions but in the end the law screwed them over anyway. Of course Apple has a lot more power than Lavabit, so it's nice they are taking this standpoint and being resistant. Hopefully they can contribute to a positive change.. Anyways at least they are trying, something i haven't seen from other bi…

Lavabit got into trouble because they made promises that they were technically unable to keep. Moxie Marlinspike takes them to task here:

http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/lavabit-critique/

Re: Apple’s approach to privacy

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post #43

I was reading their guidelines for law enforcement requests: https://www.apple.com/privacy/docs/emeia_le_guidelines_final... Interesting note: "P. FaceTime FaceTime communications are end-to-end encrypted and Apple has no way to decrypt FaceTime data when it is in transit between devices. Apple cannot intercept FaceTime communications. Apple has FaceTime call invitation logs when a FaceTime call invitation is initiat…

>Does this mean they are capable of intercepting iMessage? You know what the best way is to see who cooperates with law enforcement and to what level? Court documents! I've been trawling court documents for the past few months (I'm writing a blog article on this) and I'm yet to find iMessage being used in court (unless the access to the conversation was given by one of the parties). iMessage really does seem secure f…

Secret courts.

Re: Apple’s approach to privacy

#134

I use Apple products, including the MBP on which I am typing this post. I paid big bucks and my expectation is Apple should respect my privacy. Services like Google I use them for free, and as such, monetization is fair. Not for Apple, and I hope it won't let me down.

Or you could use free software, and stop hoping for people around you to be honest.

Re: Apple’s approach to privacy

#137
post #92

"We have also never allowed any government access to our servers. And we never will." That's a pretty bold statement.

That's because it's a lie. It's like the lawyers (and everyone else here) forgot the Snowden leaks occurred.

I'm still confused if the Snowden leaks meant that the NSA was cooperating with the companies listed, or had developed backdoors with the companies listed.

There were Google security engineers that seemed to be in the dark about the level of NSA engagement.

https://plus.google.com/+BrandonDowney/posts/SfYy8xbDWGG

Re: Apple’s approach to privacy

#138

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Prism_slide_5.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PRISM_Collection_Det...

As snowwresteler says ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10297136 ) downthread:

> Prism in general was mischaracterized by the early reports. It was first reported as a persistent backdoor into servers, but it was actually just a way for NSA to automate requests for information through the FBI. This was detailed in later reports.

> Edit: for those skeptical about my comment above, here is more detail from a discussion about a year ago:

> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8333844

Re: Apple’s approach to privacy

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post #138

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Prism_slide_5.jpg https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PRISM_Collection_Det...

As snowwresteler says ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10297136 ) downthread: > Prism in general was mischaracterized by the early reports. It was first reported as a persistent backdoor into servers, but it was actually just a way for NSA to automate requests for information through the FBI. This was detailed in later reports. > Edit: for those skeptical about my comment above, here is more detail from a discu…

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