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Re: Chris Poole

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Post by flashman »

comrh wrote: post #32
mahranch wrote: post #28

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> you think reddit's bad, try 4chan! I honestly don't think the two are even comparable. Moderating a large subreddit on reddit is infinitely harder and more complex than 4chan. Some of the larger subreddits see more pageviews than the entirety of 4chan. Moving beyond that, moderators on 4chan are completely anonymous unless they choose to be known. This isn't the case with reddit. Moderators often have to have a lon…

> This is important because with a history, you open yourself up to attacks. Which is why I set up a script a few months ago to delete my account history every month. The amount of doxing I saw on reddit made me nervous.

This has limited utility since people are archiving comments in real time and uploading them to Big Query https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9869871

Here's the realtime comments feed - add .xml, .json or .rss to change the format: https://www.reddit.com/comments

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by mahouse »

eertami wrote: post #59
marincounty wrote: post #41

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Does Reddit pay you for moderation? I think I know the answer, but they should start to pay. It's not like they don't have throw around money? I can take some Reddit, but get tired pretty quick. One joke is funny, but 50 quips just reminds me how I loate humans. (Not loathe--just dissapointed.) Kinda like the feeling I get when I'm on Facebook longer than a few minutes? They build it, and people came. People opened t…

>Does Reddit pay you for moderation? There are enough people that see moderating a subreddit as a source of power that they simply don't have to, new mods would always be available for free. >It's not like they don't have throw around money? Uhh, reddit hemorrhages money, every attempt at profitability has failed. Paying moderators would provide no value.

>Uhh, reddit hemorrhages money, every attempt at profitability has failed. Paying moderators would provide no value.

I don't see the correlation.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by arrrg »

icebraining wrote: post #58
krapp wrote: post #57

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4chan isn't "honest". Anonymity without consequence might make honesty easier, but it makes deception easier as well.

Oh, I didn't mean to imply I believe what I read or see on 4chan; it's more about the way people interact with each other. Like I said, it's more of a feeling than anything else.

You mean people are super-abrasive and think that’s just normal?

I don’t think that’s honesty, that’s being an asshole.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by argonaut »

teacup50 wrote: post #49
austenallred wrote: post #4

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I had the same thought. I'm a little disappointed this isn't the case, actually.

Ugh. The last thing a smart, creative young person with a soul needs is to be sucked into the VC empty-air universe.

I'm not criticizing Chris Poole at all, but if your value metric is doing "good in this world," I'm pretty sure Union Square Ventures has brought about more good in this world than 4chan has.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by userbinator »

angersock wrote: post #18

Good points, but a minor pet peeve: It's moot, not Chris. Maybe Chris Poole, but again, probably moot. Has been moot. Always will be moot. Are you friends with him? Do you have lunch with him? Do you work with him? In all odds, no. It's really quite annoying seeing people refer to people by the first names like they actually are familiar with them. Were you a fan of Steve? Ever go on walks with Zuck? Seriously, it's…

Calling him Chris and not moot helps put into perspective the fact that he's a human with his own identity and life, and not just someone posting with an online pseudonym.

In summary, I think that's a moot point.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by tomatohs »

pervycreeper wrote: post #69

>And he’s come out the other side with his soul and his spirit intact. I have trouble believing this one. Poole has stated that the controversies 4chan was involved in in September had a big negative personal impact, principally dealing with legal threats from celebrities who had their photos leaked on the site. Two other events, which he conspicuously hasn't commented on would have unquestionably left scars on his e…

Your comment is entirely speculative pessimism. Please leave the trolling to 4chan.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by derefr »

arrrg wrote: post #73
icebraining wrote: post #58

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Oh, I didn't mean to imply I believe what I read or see on 4chan; it's more about the way people interact with each other. Like I said, it's more of a feeling than anything else.

You mean people are super-abrasive and think that’s just normal? I don’t think that’s honesty, that’s being an asshole.

By "honesty", I think the GP meant that people get to act like assholes when they want to act like assholes, rather than feeling like they have to hold in their feelings based on how an outburst might affect their reputation. Those same people then go on to have perfectly friendly and nice conversations (or at least the bar-room-poking-fun equivalent) in other threads.

To me, that seems pretty "honest": you get to see the full range of human emotion that should be statistically-likely for a large group of people to be experiencing at any given moment, rather than just the faces people want to present to the world.

Assholish outbursts stick out because they're unusual compared to reputational society, but I don't think those outbursts are incentivized; they're just represented within the corpus at the same rate that people are actually feeling them, rather than hidden away and kept secret.

(Though, there might be a bit of a reverse-causation where people visit 4chan when they're angry to let off steam, because they know it won't affect their reputation. That could explain away quite an increase in the representation of assholes.)

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by Nadya »

arrrg wrote: post #73
icebraining wrote: post #58

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Oh, I didn't mean to imply I believe what I read or see on 4chan; it's more about the way people interact with each other. Like I said, it's more of a feeling than anything else.

You mean people are super-abrasive and think that’s just normal? I don’t think that’s honesty, that’s being an asshole.

Good times only exist because bad times exist to weigh them against. Good times would merely be "times" without bad times.

Language is full of color - and I find it a disservice to desaturate those colors. The bright are made all the more brighter when contrasted with the dim.

By muting language you make it harder to distinguish between those colors. Polite language becomes aggressive and disliked because you know when it is forced and dishonest and when everyone is expected to be polite - you lose the ability to distinguish between the forced politeness and the honest politeness. You begin to treat all politeness as forced politeness.

If you've ever been in a "100% optimistic, go-positive attitude" environment for any length of time you learn to hate it and treat everyone there with contempt. Being able to express negativity is important.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by pervycreeper »

tomatohs wrote: post #76
pervycreeper wrote: post #69

>And he’s come out the other side with his soul and his spirit intact. I have trouble believing this one. Poole has stated that the controversies 4chan was involved in in September had a big negative personal impact, principally dealing with legal threats from celebrities who had their photos leaked on the site. Two other events, which he conspicuously hasn't commented on would have unquestionably left scars on his e…

Your comment is entirely speculative pessimism. Please leave the trolling to 4chan.

Out of consideration for all parties involved I only included enough detail to give a big picture sense of what those events entailed, but rest assured that they were pretty well documented at the time. Take home message is that the users got very personal at the end of moot's tenure.

Re: Chris Poole

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Post by ossreality »

hyperion2010 wrote: post #67
moron4hire wrote: post #60

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I don't think the lack of upvotes means there isn't still a popularity contest going on. There is still a lot of posting done just to try to get as big of a reaction as possible out of people. Some people even talk about their activity on 4chan through other side-channels, like IRC or even in-person. People brag about their exploits to other people. It may not have a number attached to it, but it's really nothing but…

I have one word for you. Unidan.

lol, I have one word for you: that means nothing.
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