Why we're leaving Heroku • Hacker News Board

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by tedunangst » Tue, Sep 22, 2015, 11:43 PM UTC

hapless wrote: post #6

Why are we back here every year, like clockwork? This is what, the 4th incarnation of this bill?

Because there actually is a problem here that needs solving, but all the drama mongering keeps getting in the way?

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by raphaelss » Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 12:03 AM UTC

Finster wrote: post #11

I need a browser plugin or something to let me know when I'm visiting the website of a company that has thrown in with gov't surveillance.

Is there an updated list somewhere?

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by jbraithwaite » Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 12:03 AM UTC

Finster wrote: post #11

I need a browser plugin or something to let me know when I'm visiting the website of a company that has thrown in with gov't surveillance.

If you supply me with a list, I'll build it

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by xeromal » Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 12:06 AM UTC

snug wrote: post #18

Why would a company want to endorse this? What is the upside for them?

Quest CEO stood up to the NSA a few years ago. Got blackballed with all kinds of shit and ended up going to jail.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Nacchio

Also agrees with the other answer that goverment contracts will be dropped.

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by kkamperschroer » Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 12:15 AM UTC

CenturyLink Cloud AppFog is a good alternative. I know, I know, it's CenturyLink and that's concerning to you. Cloud is like a different company entirely.

Disclaimer: I helped build AppFog as a contractor.

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by erikpukinskis » Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 12:49 AM UTC

rdegges wrote: post #7

I've got quite a lot invested in Heroku, it's honestly really disappointing to see Salesforce do something like this. It's the responsibility of EVERYONE in the industry (especially larger tech companies) to take a stand against government, and help push for individual privacy.

I disagree. I think it's great that you want to push for individual privacy, but I don't think everyone in the industry has a responsibility to push for what you want. Everyone gets to choose what they want to advocate for.

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by zobzu » Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 1:08 AM UTC

jbraithwaite wrote: post #33

Finster wrote: post #11

I need a browser plugin or something to let me know when I'm visiting the website of a company that has thrown in with gov't surveillance.

If you supply me with a list, I'll build it

that would be cool actually, but where would one find such a list?

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by forgotmysn » Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 1:14 AM UTC

zobzu wrote: post #37

jbraithwaite wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you supply me with a list, I'll build it

that would be cool actually, but where would one find such a list?

I'm sure if you guys emailed the EFF with your idea, they would be happy to help put one together.

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by pkinsky » Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 1:37 AM UTC

tptacek wrote: post #26

alexfoo wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not being blackballed for any Government contracts?

Or a variety of other reasons that we can, like that reason, simply make up. The funny thing about your made-up reason? It's actually forbidden by statute in the very bill we're discussing.

Gee, I'm glad the US government takes so much care to follow not just the letter but the spirit of the law.

Re: Why we're leaving Heroku

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Post by Zaheer » Wed, Sep 23, 2015, 2:15 AM UTC

Anyone have experience with Heroku alternatives like Openshift Origin?