I need a browser plugin or something to let me know when I'm visiting the website of a company that has thrown in with gov't surveillance.
Why we're leaving Heroku
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
SOPA and PIPA are not previous incarnations of CISA. CISA has nothing to do with SOPA and PIPA.
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This still is totally unrelated to SOPA.
Also, the blog you linked to is from the same organization that wrote the article we are looking at.
Here is the bill's actual text: https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/234/...
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#14I followed the link and clicked on the letter from the BSA. I did not see any reference to the CISA in the letter. It seems to be endorsing more restrictions on government surveillance, not less. (at least, thats what the letter claims.)
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#15Why are we back here every year, like clockwork? This is what, the 4th incarnation of this bill?
Because government wants control, and while we have to raise a lot of awareness in a short period of time to bring pressure to the politicians on this issue... those who propose this legislation just go back when "Defeated" and rewrite it, put it forward under another name etc.
I believe a lot of the stuff that was "defeated" in the past, got inserted into the recent "net neutrality" ruling that had the internets cheering! (800 pages if I recall, so I didn't read it to find out for sure.)
They will not stop-- law enforcement types have permanent jobs and they're there each year claiming they need more and more control/surveillance.
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#16If the NSA can't steal the data, then companies will provide the data. Same thing they did with phone "meta" data; shift responsibility to the companies.
This is the new peace. The NSA won't attack your business, and your business will become a part of the national security apparatus.
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#17I followed the link and clicked on the letter from the BSA. I did not see any reference to the CISA in the letter. It seems to be endorsing more restrictions on government surveillance, not less. (at least, thats what the letter claims.)
In the section where they are requesting immediate congressional action, they list "Cyber Threat Information Sharing Legislation". This is CISA.
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#18Why would a company want to endorse this? What is the upside for them?
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#19Look, this "get in touch with your representative / senator" is not going to do it. Can we start mentioning the sponsors and bad amenders of these bills? Nowhere in this letter does it mention the sponsors of the bill. Yeah, the business may loose a little business, but some other damn corp or group will sponsor this bill.
I know in some districts electing a member of the opposite party (and this being a cross-party issue that can be a crap shoot) is not going to happen, but we can work to primary-out the damn fool. The only way politicians are going to listen is if you take their seat away. If you make them fear you if they even think about introducing legislation then you win.
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#20The Paasify link seems to compare Heroku and Pivotal Web Services by default. Note that the last update to that page was 2 years ago, according to the link.
Disclaimer: I work for Pivotal Labs, PWS is run by another division of the same company.