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Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan

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Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan

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Post by forgottenpass »

shubhamjain wrote: post #61

A few days ago, an article was posted how WhatsApp has scaled to nearly a billion users and is still running with only 50 engineers. Isn't running 4chan more impressive feat being run, if I am not wrong, by just one engineer, and that too from a time when web development tools weren't anywhere close to what we have today.

Yes and no. For some crazy reason it's easier to run server infrastructure when you're not doing hyper-aggressive data collection and running computationally complex operations to fetch and decide the data to display.

It's impressive in the sense that the staff size is in the order of magnitude you would expect given their publicly-visible product. Many companies will brag about their ops staff being big (because they're so great that their system has to scale) or small (because they're so great at building scalable systems), but operate so opaquely you have zero way to judge the impressiveness of the number and you have to trust the opinion of a journalist that doesn't even care to know.

Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan

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Post by brador »

Karunamon wrote: post #83
brador wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> According to the guy who ran the site. Do you see the problem?

Okay, so considering that 4chan didn't accept donations, didn't have any form of user-generated revenue until the (very recent) 4chan pass thing, Poole has always maintained that the site was a money loser. Also, cheap to run? The bandwidth costs alone would be HUGE. Not sure why you think he has a motive to lie about this - and if he does, again, put forth some evidence rather than spurious accusations. Calling the…

You conveniently missed ad revenue. 4chan has around 650m pageviews a month. At $0.25/1000 that's a few million a year.

And I didn't say he was lying, I said I don't believe him.

Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan

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Post by krapp »

austenallred wrote: post #95
krapp wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, I doubt moot would have trouble finding money if he looked for it.

He raised money in the past. The company failed. He was living with his parents for a while, trying to figure out what to do. http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/4chans-overlord...

Still, there has to be some some value in having "Creator and administrator of 4Chan" on one's resume.

Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan

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Post by BookmarkSaver »

DonHopkins wrote: post #93
moomin wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I invoke Godwin to refute this assertion.

By directly invoking Godwin himself, are you saying that Godwin created something so influential, that shaped internet culture for better and for worse, that Godwin's Law itself is an achievement to be proud of, even if he never made much money from it?

He's comparing him to Hitler. Hitler had a huge influence on the world, for better and for worse, but that doesn't mean it is something he should necessarily be proud of.

Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan

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Post by Karunamon »

DanBC wrote: post #100
Dirlewanger wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'd say they've done quite a lot of good already. Absolutely, and the saddest part about all this is that entities with painfully overt agendas (The Verge/Vox, Ars Technica, etc.) were more than happy to report on all the negatives, and will still continue to, while reporting none of the good that's come out of it. Same with people on this site for the most part: they've completely made up their mind about what Game…

Can you (or any pro-gamergaters) show me one site that you think counts as a pro gamergate site?

Here's a few:

http://deepfreeze.it (exhaustively sourced list of complaints against game journalists and information on the movement as a whole)

http://techraptor.com (games news site, spawned in the wake of gamergate)

http://escapistmagazine.com (games news site, updated ethics policies after initial complaints, allows open discussion on the forums)

Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan

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Post by rdl »

austenallred wrote: post #17

I feel bad for moot. He'll probably be known for the rest of his life for creating a cesspool he never made much money from.

I'm willing to bet he'll do a lot more great things in the future, and "created 4chan", even if you didn't capture much value from it, is more than 99.999% of people have accomplished.

Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan

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Post by JohnBooty »

Lawtonfogle wrote: post #99
JohnBooty wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Planned Parenthood is close to 100 years old so in that sense it's not comparable to something like GamerGate that's barely a year old.

Either origin matters more than current composition or it doesn't.

That's just silly. Of course 100 years of action matter more than 1 year of action.

Re: Hiroyuki Nishimura, founder of 2channel, has taken ownership of 4chan

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Post by rdl »

brador wrote: post #103
Karunamon wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, so considering that 4chan didn't accept donations, didn't have any form of user-generated revenue until the (very recent) 4chan pass thing, Poole has always maintained that the site was a money loser. Also, cheap to run? The bandwidth costs alone would be HUGE. Not sure why you think he has a motive to lie about this - and if he does, again, put forth some evidence rather than spurious accusations. Calling the…

You conveniently missed ad revenue. 4chan has around 650m pageviews a month. At $0.25/1000 that's a few million a year. And I didn't say he was lying, I said I don't believe him.

No way $1 CPM for 4chan.
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