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Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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Thank you for posting your obscure in-jokes on a reasonably public forum.

Thank you for publicly complaining about a completely-obvious-from-context idiom so sassily

It's not obvious at all. At least not from the context alone. I'm not even sure how you cam up with that idiom, nor which sex's genitalia it's supposed to look like.

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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I'm really trying to understand how anyone can think this is sensible. Maybe 20 years ago when these laws were written by people who had never used WiFi at a cafe before, but surely everyone involved with writing this bill intuits that this sort of a measure is utterly worthless and just induces frictions. Maybe it enables prosecution later for lying? Hard to believe they think that outweighs the costs.

Did you ever take a look who sits in the European Parliament and European Commission? Introducing Günther Oettinger, the European Commissioner for Digital Economy and Society: (wait for his English at the 0:20 mark) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88OGXLFpeMw As a German I am completely embarrassed.

So I get that his poor English is a sign of his age, and that older folks are less likely to grok tech. But I'd still wager he has used WiFI before, and should be able to understand how useless but still costly those click-to-agree screens are.

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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> From the "WLAN" café Is there any other country which calls WiFi as WLAN? I have traveled to many countries in Europe but I assume Germany, France and Luxembourg seem to be the only countries that use this term.

Just a sidenote: I think the reason the term "WiFi" never caught on in Germany is that 1. It sounds really awkward in German (most speakers will pronounce the "W" as in German, i.e. "Vi-Fi"). 2. WLAN is easier to say (think "V-LAN"). 3. It can easily be confused with "HiFi" (which, btw, is commonly pronounced as "Hi-Fee" for some reason, creating additional confusion about the acceptable pronunciation of "WiFi" in Ge…

I'd guess HiFi is pronounced Hi-Fee as it takes the "fi" sound from "High Fidelity".

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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post #79

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> From the "WLAN" café Is there any other country which calls WiFi as WLAN? I have traveled to many countries in Europe but I assume Germany, France and Luxembourg seem to be the only countries that use this term.

Just a sidenote: I think the reason the term "WiFi" never caught on in Germany is that 1. It sounds really awkward in German (most speakers will pronounce the "W" as in German, i.e. "Vi-Fi"). 2. WLAN is easier to say (think "V-LAN"). 3. It can easily be confused with "HiFi" (which, btw, is commonly pronounced as "Hi-Fee" for some reason, creating additional confusion about the acceptable pronunciation of "WiFi" in Ge…

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Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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I'm currently suffering two copyright infringement cases, which I can only assume are the result of the storm that reset my FritzRepeater back to factory settings, leaving an open bridge into my network. Two copyright claims, from two law firms, for albums I've never heard of, at times that I wasn't in the house. Because of an arcane, but largely logical German law named "Störerhaftung" I am by default responsible, a…

That's a really unfair system Germany has for itself. And I tend to sympathize with copyright holders over pirate. If they are going to just hold you responsible by default, 5,000 Euros is way to high. I could see like 100 Euros, like a steep parking ticket. Damn that sucks.

Likely they are doing X euro damage pr song, pr album.

And they are free to do so, as most copyright law is written based on the assumption of for profit copying. Meaning that said law assumes the person responsible is doing it industrially, and therefore has deep pockets.

These are assumptions that belong back in the Gutenberg era. Yet any time the call to modernize copyright law, the legislators stay well away from actually considering the assumptions that copyright is based on.

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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post #81
post #58

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Thank you for publicly complaining about a completely-obvious-from-context idiom so sassily

It's not obvious at all. At least not from the context alone. I'm not even sure how you cam up with that idiom, nor which sex's genitalia it's supposed to look like.

> Sad to know that Merkel has made Germany into a mushroom tied to a string.

> Sad to know that Merkel has made Germany into a silly joke.

any child could figure that out, especially considering the tone of the comment already set with 'benjamin' why are you posting

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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post #16

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Friendly tip: You need to look at the different uses of "since" and "for" in English.

Yeah, thanks. I know the difference in theory, but reliably mess it up. If more people were to call me on it like you did, it would probably be fixed by now. My American wife never tells me these things and just confirms it when someone else is so nice to point is out. :(

> I live in the US since 8 years and still misunderstood it.

in particular it's hard to tell whether you mean 'since I were eight years old' vs 'for a span of eight years'

also, a native speaker would probably use tense such as "I have lived", so casually, "I've lived in the US for 8 years and still misunderstood it."

and noone ever uses whom, but you probably used it correctly

ps you typoed 'possibly be' and 'it'

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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post #52
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Clearly you've not used a German cell phone plan, nor have experienced the LTE coverage across Germany.

Is it good or bad? The last time I was in Germany I was using 3G-only Aldi Mobile, with some tiny amount of data.

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

#89
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> From the "WLAN" café Is there any other country which calls WiFi as WLAN? I have traveled to many countries in Europe but I assume Germany, France and Luxembourg seem to be the only countries that use this term.

Just a sidenote: I think the reason the term "WiFi" never caught on in Germany is that 1. It sounds really awkward in German (most speakers will pronounce the "W" as in German, i.e. "Vi-Fi"). 2. WLAN is easier to say (think "V-LAN"). 3. It can easily be confused with "HiFi" (which, btw, is commonly pronounced as "Hi-Fee" for some reason, creating additional confusion about the acceptable pronunciation of "WiFi" in Ge…

> 1. It sounds really awkward in German (most speakers will pronounce the "W" as in German, i.e. "Vi-Fi").

This would hold true for Dutch too but I don't think WLAN is used in the Netherlands. Permanent residents may confirm.

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really trying to understand how anyone can think this is sensible. Maybe 20 years ago when these laws were written by people who had never used WiFi at a cafe before, but surely everyone involved with writing this bill intuits that this sort of a measure is utterly worthless and just induces frictions. Maybe it enables prosecution later for lying? Hard to believe they think that outweighs the costs.

Did you ever take a look who sits in the European Parliament and European Commission? Introducing Günther Oettinger, the European Commissioner for Digital Economy and Society: (wait for his English at the 0:20 mark) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88OGXLFpeMw As a German I am completely embarrassed.

Better english wouldn't help hiding his incompetence. https://twitter.com/lino/status/558222792496537600
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