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Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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Post by nisa »

codebeaker wrote: post #33

I'm currently suffering two copyright infringement cases, which I can only assume are the result of the storm that reset my FritzRepeater back to factory settings, leaving an open bridge into my network. Two copyright claims, from two law firms, for albums I've never heard of, at times that I wasn't in the house. Because of an arcane, but largely logical German law named "Störerhaftung" I am by default responsible, a…

Most cases aren't taken to court. Courts have decided against these firms in the past and the general climate is turning against them. I've got similar claims (but only 500€) and the lawyer firm stopped bothering me after I've said I'm running a freifunk.net router (which I'm doing) - freifunk.net are having a "war" cash depot and want to go to the BVerG to end finally end this madness. You can follow the drama here: http://freifunkstattangst.de/

The new law is btw. not helping at all. It's lobbying by said lawfirms that bother you and me and in practice things likely will turn out worse. See http://freifunkstattangst.de/2015/09/16/die-bundesregierung-... for details.

If it's Waldorf and Frommer tell them you are cooperating the freifunkstattangst.de and mail them. They dropped at least my case out of fear (or rather tactics on their behalf).

It's a scare game these lawyers are playing. It's ridiciolous that this is still a thing. However most lawyers are profiting of it and the majority of Bundestag members are lawyers. For a (kind of unfair) comparison see here: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rechtsberatungsgesetz#Geschich...

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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Post by rhino369 »

codebeaker wrote: post #33

I'm currently suffering two copyright infringement cases, which I can only assume are the result of the storm that reset my FritzRepeater back to factory settings, leaving an open bridge into my network. Two copyright claims, from two law firms, for albums I've never heard of, at times that I wasn't in the house. Because of an arcane, but largely logical German law named "Störerhaftung" I am by default responsible, a…

That's a really unfair system Germany has for itself. And I tend to sympathize with copyright holders over pirate.

If they are going to just hold you responsible by default, 5,000 Euros is way to high. I could see like 100 Euros, like a steep parking ticket.

Damn that sucks.

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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Post by linohh »

vapourismo wrote: post #39
codebeaker wrote: post #33

I'm currently suffering two copyright infringement cases, which I can only assume are the result of the storm that reset my FritzRepeater back to factory settings, leaving an open bridge into my network. Two copyright claims, from two law firms, for albums I've never heard of, at times that I wasn't in the house. Because of an arcane, but largely logical German law named "Störerhaftung" I am by default responsible, a…

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unterlassungserklärung I think that is what you need.

Oh no, Unterlassungserklärung should be the last resort. Usually the content mafia lawyers have no interest in fighting cases in court, the risk is too high. Get a lawyer and see how they won't go to court.

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

jdmichal wrote: post #47
briandear wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would a bad person actually refuse to agree with not breaking the law? A 'bad' person already has a willingness to not follow the rules, so how would an agreement matter?

I think the point is to clearly shift the moral hazard away from the provider to the user. The user may not uphold the agreement, but then they are clearly the morally wrong party.

Why not simply give the moral hazard to the user by default? If I give someone a pen and paper and they use it to write a letter ordering a terrorist attack, am I morally responsible for the attack simply because I didn't get them to agree to use it lawfully?

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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Post by qnaal »

GFK_of_xmaspast wrote: post #19
goldenkey wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a euphemism for genitalia. My inner circle uses it to refer to something that has become a joke of itself.

Thank you for posting your obscure in-jokes on a reasonably public forum.

Thank you for publicly complaining about a completely-obvious-from-context idiom so sassily

Re: Germany's Wi-Fi Shortage Set to Ease as Merkel Backs New Bill

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Post by chinathrow »

codebeaker wrote: post #33

I'm currently suffering two copyright infringement cases, which I can only assume are the result of the storm that reset my FritzRepeater back to factory settings, leaving an open bridge into my network. Two copyright claims, from two law firms, for albums I've never heard of, at times that I wasn't in the house. Because of an arcane, but largely logical German law named "Störerhaftung" I am by default responsible, a…

Setup a donation page, I'll chip in.
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