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HP to cut 25-30k jobs

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Re: HP to cut 25-30k jobs

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HP should have done something meaningful in the profitable consumer electronics space with Palm, rather than gutting it. That was an opportunity for some market growth squandered, where else is their growth going to come from? I have lots of sympathy for those losing their jobs, but none whatsoever for the senior management team or board.

but none whatsoever for the senior management team or board.

Who happen to keep their jobs no matter what happens to the company.

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HP has become terrible. My girlfriend does some IT procurement from time to time at her job, and that also involves having to buy stuff from HP (nothing big, just the usual). She told me that HP's procurement interface for external entities (or whatever its official name is) is absolutely terrible. It blocks randomly, it's very slow, it takes a lot to fill in all the info, and when you finally give up and call some h…

This.

Two weeks to get two hard disks on an enterprise agreement. Bought the damn things off Misco and had them there the next morning.

Decided to buy supermicro from now on.

Plus Broadcom NICs in 2015. Kill me now.

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My father is a field-service engineer for HP in Midwest (based out of Minneapolis, but he has calls all over from Fargo, ND to Mpls, MN to Madison, WI). He is _the_ go-to for their biggest, most senior, most mission-critical clients. He put together UMN's Alpha setup, is the only guy that USPS will call for help, MNSCU, Best Buy, UHG... basically, anyone with an HP setup (server or printer) that's a Fortune 1000 (and…

Wow. Rant incoming. Im just aghast how shitty your country is. I can understand living in fear of mortgages and the like, jak with at will nonsense and the like ( gags ) But your employer having a gun to your beloved's head - that what it basically is - is just rotten. I genuinely wish that any libertarians here (in Poland) move to USA or, Friedmans beloved, Chile. I hope they get to experience shit like that. I gues…

>I genuinely wish that any libertarians here (in Poland) move to USA

Lots of Poles, libertarian or not, do that for the massive quality of life increase.

Re: HP to cut 25-30k jobs

#124
So in February HP announced it would fire 58,000 just so the company could spend even more billions on stock buybacks. Since then, buyback activity has gone down a bit and so they clearly needed to spend even more on buybacks.

But where get the money? Cutting 30k jobs is a start:

https://imgur.com/3MdRKqv

Re: HP to cut 25-30k jobs

#125

The sad part is that it's Carly Fiorina's fault for turning HP into the mess it was. And now she touts that as the reason why she should be president. It's a sick joke that she thinks gutting one of Silicon Valley's preeminent companies makes her worthy of being president. HP was the first company to pioneer Silicon Valley culture, ie. The HP Way. It was only after Fiorina's tenure that HP turned into a shadow of its…

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Resignation , Fiorina made over $100M in her time at HP. So she makes out like a bandit and leaves the company in a ditch, rattled, and struggling to regain composure. Do these people have any conscience?

What about the board? There should be a "golden ass-kick" rather than a golden parachute when CEOs have such poor performance. Does anyone else remember Leo Apotheker? I believe they gave him like $25 million when he left a year later after he took the job.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9o_Apotheker

Re: HP to cut 25-30k jobs

#126

The sad part is that it's Carly Fiorina's fault for turning HP into the mess it was. And now she touts that as the reason why she should be president. It's a sick joke that she thinks gutting one of Silicon Valley's preeminent companies makes her worthy of being president. HP was the first company to pioneer Silicon Valley culture, ie. The HP Way. It was only after Fiorina's tenure that HP turned into a shadow of its…

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Resignation , Fiorina made over $100M in her time at HP. So she makes out like a bandit and leaves the company in a ditch, rattled, and struggling to regain composure. Do these people have any conscience?

Yes, they have a conscience, and it's telling them they did nothing wrong...

Re: HP to cut 25-30k jobs

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> The tech company has struggled over the last decade to keep up with changing demands as customers move away from desktop computers. Maybe, but laptop or desktop, HP has been always synonymous with crappy quality and design - among the worst I have ever seen. I just can't wait for them to stop making PCs so that we can get at least half-decent laptops from other manufacturers.

Well, if you buy their cheapest shit, you get the cheapest shit :-)

Their business workstations are second to none in terms of internal design (with seemingly minor stuff like automatic shutoff if a short circuit or ground leakage is detected anywhere) and reliability (laptops that can operate 24/7 under 100% load for months at end), at least in my experience...

Re: HP to cut 25-30k jobs

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post #7

> The tech company has struggled over the last decade to keep up with changing demands as customers move away from desktop computers. Maybe, but laptop or desktop, HP has been always synonymous with crappy quality and design - among the worst I have ever seen. I just can't wait for them to stop making PCs so that we can get at least half-decent laptops from other manufacturers.

I have an HP11C calculator I bought in 1989 I still use. It cost almost $100 back then. The first HP printer I bought was a DeskJet 550c. Made a beautiful whooshing and humming noises. Kept it for more than 10 years. When they discovered a tendency for premature wear on the pickup rollers, HP sent me a maintenance kit: one day it just showed up with instructions. I had a zd7000 laptop in the early oughts. It was pret…

LaserJets were always good, but their inkjets (DerpJets, all of them :-)) were always horrible in my experience. Then again, I've never worked with other printers for a long period of time (my employer used all HP), so I can't compare...

Re: HP to cut 25-30k jobs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. I had several HP Kayak workstations; they were rock solid and built like tanks. A bunch of our servers were HP, and they were also quite solid. This was in the early 2000's, though. I haven't seen a decent HP product in a long, long time. Their printers are simply average, and nothing like they used to be.

I have had to live with HP laptops for... close to 13 years now. No matter how far I look back, they were always horrible.

Pavilions or Elitebooks (and their unnamed predecessor series)? Major difference imo...

Re: HP to cut 25-30k jobs

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My father is a field-service engineer for HP in Midwest (based out of Minneapolis, but he has calls all over from Fargo, ND to Mpls, MN to Madison, WI). He is _the_ go-to for their biggest, most senior, most mission-critical clients. He put together UMN's Alpha setup, is the only guy that USPS will call for help, MNSCU, Best Buy, UHG... basically, anyone with an HP setup (server or printer) that's a Fortune 1000 (and…

The new corporations are about efficiencies they are not paternalistic as their post-war incarnations. The situation is unfortunate but HP Enterprise Services has a goal of 60% off-shore workforce ( http://finance.yahoo.com/news/meg-whitman-hp-offshore-60-224... ). That would mean HP is going IBM route even though IBM got wacked big time.

In other words, "offshore all jobs except the ones that we need to keep our lucrative government contracts."
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