Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

techcrunch.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

811–820 of 874 posts

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#811

Post by carlosrg »

andreamazz wrote: post #733
carlosrg wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"if you see a stylus, they blew it." - Steve Jobs, after the 2010 iPad introduction.

Then people started buying 3rd party crappy stylus, because drawing with just your finger is hard. If there's demand, it would be stupid not offering a solution. The stylus is an optional, not included nor needed for the iPad Pro. People are under the impression that what Jobs said to sell his ideas at the time should be an unbreakable company law, but that would be idiotic.

Yeah, like the bigger iPhone screens. So many market demands to be fulfilled, so many times Apple and the Apple faithful said something was stupid and then rectified themselves.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#812

Post by CardenB »

randyrand wrote: post #638
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #559

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The starbucks full of students typing out reports on iPads with bluetooth keyboards begs to differ. I mean, obviousy, you can't do all work on an iPad, but for a certain class of "work" it works fine.

The most annoying bit related to getting real work done on iOS is how long it takes to switch apps. Switching from one app to the other should be 1 click if you want to get serious work done. This is how windows and the surface work. 1 click. A taskbar at the bottom. It works. The current iOS takes 2 clicks, a swipe, and a tap. Unacceptable for multiasking. Now that iIOS has multitasking it changes in an important wa…

You can also alt-tab if you have a keyboard

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#813

Post by zerohm »

nawitus wrote: post #368
zerohm wrote: post #300

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they are playing catch up in the cover keyboard and stylus categories. However, they are still dominating mobile, revamping their TV line, and growing in a shrinking PC market. Oh and also they just released a pretty successful watch. Just saying, I think Apple is still a pretty innovative company.

How do you define dominating mobile? There are far more Android smartphones.

Apple is dominating the high end mobile market, where profits and the most desired customers are. (People who pay for apps and spend money within apps)

http://techcrunch.com/2015/04/14/revenue-gap-between-ios-and...

The "free with contract" or sub $400 market is a cut throat race to the bottom between Samsung and Xiaomi. Apple chooses not to enter that race (despite several journalists claiming they NEED a cheap phone to survive).

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#814

Post by gress »

prapam2 wrote: post #713
gress wrote: post #667

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The numbers of android include huge numbers of unusable devices that exist to displace feature phones. Don't kid yourself about what this means.

How are they unsuable?

They are underpowered even for running android apps and are used almost exclusively as messaging devices.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#815

Post by gress »

anjc wrote: post #775
gress wrote: post #657

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The surface pro is a failure. Apple didn't make a pro tablet earlier because they understood the correct time to introduce such a product.

By what metrics is it a failure? Because when I last looked at Microsoft's financial statements, their revenue was up due to the Surface (Profit was down for unrelated reasons). I'm assuming you haven't used a Surface Pro but you can mark my words now, Apple will release a direct copy of the Surface within 3 years. The iPad Pro is a glorified iPad and will be utterly unusable for doing anything professional, so it's…

This is already demonstrably false. The iPad is already in use for professional purposes, and if you'd watched it, you have seen the stage demo prove you wrong.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#816

Post by gress »

Aldo_MX wrote: post #690
gress wrote: post #651

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no serious pro Android apps, and Chrome Apps are not touch typically designed for touch, so this changes nothing.

I use this in my surface tablet, the performance is great, it doesn't even feel it's emulated: http://www.amiduos.com/

What Pro apps does that allow you to run?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#817

Post by anjc »

gress wrote: post #815
anjc wrote: post #775

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By what metrics is it a failure? Because when I last looked at Microsoft's financial statements, their revenue was up due to the Surface (Profit was down for unrelated reasons). I'm assuming you haven't used a Surface Pro but you can mark my words now, Apple will release a direct copy of the Surface within 3 years. The iPad Pro is a glorified iPad and will be utterly unusable for doing anything professional, so it's…

This is already demonstrably false. The iPad is already in use for professional purposes, and if you'd watched it, you have seen the stage demo prove you wrong.

What professional purposes?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#818

Post by [deleted] »

bitwize wrote: post #428
soylentcola wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comedy "smartphone" attempts? I had a couple of smart phones before the iPhone came out and they offered several things it didn't. The fact that capacitive touchscreens and GPU acceleration weren't as good yet doesn't make them "comedy attempts". More like the incremental developments that provided the base which the iPhone was built upon. Ignoring the fact that it's all moot now, I was doing GPS navigation, multitas…

There are two kinds of personal computing products in any era: * Blatant copies of some Apple product * Rough prototypes of some future Apple product

[deleted]

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#819

Post by jeeva »

rayiner wrote: post #533
jff wrote: post #47

Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

I don't think it's accurate to say Surface Pro presaged the iPad Pro by three years. Surface Pro was a basically different vision (not to mention a severely compromised device). A laptop without a keyboard but with a fan and short battery life. A software stack that requires you to go into the desktop to access non-trivial settings. The iPad Pro is a big iPad. No x86, no fan, touch-based software stack, etc. It's not…

> Some people may consider the iPad Pro to be a Surface 3 with less features.

I think that's possibly because that's what a lot of people seemed to be wanting / hoping for, from this announcement. And it's not what Apple was looking to deliver - which is fine.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

#820

Post by prapam2 »

mythz wrote: post #808
prapam2 wrote: post #789

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes most android devices act like that. I see my device as a drive in the system. Drag and Drop nothing is more simpler then that. Op had mentioned "Apple starts from the user experience" which users prefer hence they have great sales. I questioned since Android has far better sales. I don't know what profits have to do with user experience. If users preferred Apple approach should it not then have more sales?

Android has more sales in the same way free apps have more sales than paid Apps. Apple only targets the high end which is why they reap a majority of the profits whilst most Android manufacturers can't even sell enough devices to cover costs, despite using a free OS they never had to sink R&D into. As for UX I didn't think it could ever be argued that Android was even comparable to iOS, you can look at the sat rankin…

So changing the parameters again? Apple has good sales in countries which have subsidies. If majority are buying at full price i would have agreed with you. But the subsidized prices equal to mid-budget mobiles where i live India(Buyers here actually pay the high end amount for Apple). If android was loss making those companies would have quit already.

In my opninion Material is way better then iOS. " majority of mobile web " - statcounter, netshare already put chrome/android ahead!

Anyway the point was Apple UI is not always intuitive. I even didn't know that toolbar icons can be long pressed on my mac-pro for a long time!

And drag and drop is the simplest/intuitive way to copy files from medium to another which iOS totally messed it up.

Post reply on HN