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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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coldtea wrote: post #486
hashberry wrote: post #207

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And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

> the once innovative company is now playing catch up Apple never did the VERY first products of a category. There was Xerox before Lisa, PDAs before Newton, mp3 players before the iPod, smartphones before the iPhone, tablets before the iPad, smartwatches before the Apple Watch, etc. The only did the first products of a category that were where at least half-thought out (instead of rushed crap), and people actually w…

Apple HiFi ? (giant wooly sounding box for iPod)

Apple PowerCD? (odd vertical CD player)

Twentieth Anniversary Macintosh? (oddly, the Cisco E20 appears to be identical in appearance)

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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ctdonath wrote: post #531
selestify wrote: post #456

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> (And Wang beat that by several years with a 3" thick monstrosity that, IIRC, went nowhere.) What was this and where can I read more about it?

It was about a foot square (or more), at least 3 inches thick, had a large handle to grip, a wired stylus, and a painfully low-res B/W LCD display. I got to handle it a few times, but saw no compelling use (the concept was great, but technology was far from there). IIRC, 3 came with a Wang minicomputer at the time, late 1980's or early 1990's. I've tried to find a picture of it several times since, but nothing yet.

http://thefinanser.co.uk/fsclub/2010/05/the-ipad-prototype-c...

This?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Very interesting to see the Microsoft demo on it and warm welcome during the keynote. Very different to the shouts of "NOOOO!" during the Apple event where they had Bill Gates call in, and IE was made the default browser.

I was kind of expecting them to sneakily pull a Microsoft surface out.

Pity there was no "it's road trip" fudged demo. Watching that makes me laugh every time.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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starky wrote: post #723
hashberry wrote: post #207

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And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

In what way is the Surface Pro 3 (which is really the only currently available competition) boring? I'd say it is the most innovative product in the tablet space in the last 4 years. Really they are trying to catch up to the only real competition they have in the space. Plus, Apple has been playing catch up for a while now. I can't remember precisely which iOS release it was (I believe iOS 7) but the release was pret…

Didn't you see Samsung Note as a competitor?

I have the 2014 one (brand new!) and it is disappointing. Less battery life than my old iPad 3. Worse performance too.

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caskance wrote: post #487
hashberry wrote: post #207

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And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

If innovation were what mattered, everyone would be browsing with Opera.

Only up to Opera 12, when they suddenly decided to become a theme creator for Chromium and chucked all their decent code and features in the bin, sadly.

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coldtea wrote: post #506
amyjess wrote: post #273

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Honestly, I'm more than happy with my Surface Pro 3, and the iPad Pro doesn't interest me at all. Not only are they playing catch up, but they failed to adequately catch up.

Are you also rocking that brown Zune?

One day they'll be collector's items, I am sure of it.

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cookiecaper wrote: post #233
hashberry wrote: post #207

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And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

It is so crazy how this is the PC wars all over again. Apple comes out of the gate with huge marketshare, begins to lose it due to their insufferable snobbery, panics and tries to copy everyone without alienating their base of insufferable snobs and with frilly copies that only the kool-aid drinkers fall for, and continues its descent into irrelevance. Will Samsung have to save Apple from extinction in 10 years in or…

I know what you mean, my MacBook is so irrelevant I want to throw it in the bin. I mean, it literally has ZERO use at all......................... right?

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Post by 72deluxe »

rayiner wrote: post #533
jff wrote: post #47

Predicted by a 3 year old comic: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COenroJWEAAjLoi.jpg:large

I don't think it's accurate to say Surface Pro presaged the iPad Pro by three years. Surface Pro was a basically different vision (not to mention a severely compromised device). A laptop without a keyboard but with a fan and short battery life. A software stack that requires you to go into the desktop to access non-trivial settings. The iPad Pro is a big iPad. No x86, no fan, touch-based software stack, etc. It's not…

You're spot on. The fact that they moved all settings to one place and forced applications to do the same means a consistent feel - this is something that Windows has not got; each app may have options, preferences, hidden registry settings that can be tweaked, config files that can be tweaked, the system has Control Panel, MMC and snap-ins for other settings (or Computer Management) and then a new series of settings interfaces for Windows 8 and 10; settings can be accessed via multiple entry points (do I join a wifi network using the charm, the icon on the taskbar, control panel or something else???)

OSX has this to some extent with icons in the menu bar and changes in menu options when you press Alt, but on the iPad they were VERY wise to keep it in one place and to market the device as NOT a PC or workstation.

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caipre wrote: post #673
ronyeh wrote: post #650

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It's a bit of a hidden feature, but for 4 years, iOS has had multitasking gestures. http://www.macworld.com/article/1163019/ios_5_new_gestures.h... If you swipe with four fingers to the left or right, you can move between your two most recent apps. Hopefully iOS9 will make "multi-tasking" even easier.

*On iPad. This gesture does nothing on my iPhone 5s running iOS 9.

True, it is iPad only. To be fair, it's a bit of a struggle for me to even get 4 fingers on 5s at the same time, let alone swipe them, but it would be handy on my 6+. I use swiping to switch apps on my iPad heavily. It revolutionized how I use the device.

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npunt wrote: post #661
skc wrote: post #321

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Huh? It's full windows and yet the ecosystem was terrible? Doesn't compute.

'Full windows' is exactly the reason the ecosystem is terrible. The uniqueness of the Surface hardware is not matched by the software. Thus, besides a few brand-name apps, most ignore touch capability and code for regular Windows to reach a broader audience. Its a perfectly rational response to Microsoft setting the wrong context for an otherwise fine product.

Very interesting. Does the windows API have dedicated touch events? I listen for mouse down, mouse up, mouse motion (or use a timer and poll the mouse location is a button is down), drag and drop events etc. but I suspect on a touchscreen device all of the touch events are just handed to the system as mouse events.

I wouldn't like to think how MFC handles pinch to zoom, for example.

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