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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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It's like the $80 magsafe charger. Thing probably costs $3 to manufacture and distribute, but good luck using your macbook without one. Simple price gouging, but most customers are happy to pay.

Someone did a detailed comparison between the $19 Apple 500mW cube charger vs a no-name $4 lookalike. Short version: the former is an engineering marvel of efficiency, compactness, and safety ... while the latter is likely to kill someone. You may not appreciate the "diminishing returns" of increased quality for increased price, but Apple's bottom line shows a great many do.

"and safety" nope

There are thousands of examples of iPhone chargers & cables melting down.

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> We see less and less such ideas from Apple. Disagree. This is a really commonly held viewpoint that I think is the product of our fast news cycles, and I don't think it approaches truth for another several years. You are totally right that iPod and iPhone were not the first. While these were cool products when they came out, I think what's often lost is that it was only in the years of incremental improvements that…

Apple's not going to release a driverless car. Where are people coming up with this crap?

I guess that test track for driverless cars that they've been in talks with [1], and all those auto executives and autonomous vehicle engineers they're hiring are going to work on something else?

Just because they've been a computer company thus far doesn't mean it'll always be that way. They're the largest company on earth with over $100B in the bank and incredible consumer goodwill looking for any space with large profit margin potential where they can differentiate with good user experience.

[1] http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/aug/14/apple-self...

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"Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus." -Steve Jobs

"if you see a stylus, they blew it." - Steve Jobs, after the 2010 iPad introduction.

Then people started buying 3rd party crappy stylus, because drawing with just your finger is hard. If there's demand, it would be stupid not offering a solution. The stylus is an optional, not included nor needed for the iPad Pro. People are under the impression that what Jobs said to sell his ideas at the time should be an unbreakable company law, but that would be idiotic.

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In all fairness I know many people who love to draw on the Surface and really wanted a more precise pen type of input on the iPad; I think this was a long time coming and really necessary. The keyboard cover thing? Sure I could agree with you on that. I actually think Surface did a better job with it especially with the adjustable kickstand but we'll see when I can actually touch and play with the iPad Pro one.

The stylus is interesting in that it's a total about-face for Apple. So far as I can tell, no Apple store has ever stocked an iPhone- or iPad-compatible stylus -- not the cheap capacitive ones nor even the iPad-exclusive pressure-sensitive Wacom stylus for artists, despite stocking Wacom tablets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YY3MSaUqMg

Ahem: http://www.apple.com/shop/product/HHVE2ZM/A/pencil-by-fiftyt...

It's more than a year old now.

And you're deliberately misinterpreting that keynote. Unlike the devices that basically were on the market, you don't need a stylus to navigate the OS or use the device at all.

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In all fairness I know many people who love to draw on the Surface and really wanted a more precise pen type of input on the iPad; I think this was a long time coming and really necessary. The keyboard cover thing? Sure I could agree with you on that. I actually think Surface did a better job with it especially with the adjustable kickstand but we'll see when I can actually touch and play with the iPad Pro one.

The stylus is interesting in that it's a total about-face for Apple. So far as I can tell, no Apple store has ever stocked an iPhone- or iPad-compatible stylus -- not the cheap capacitive ones nor even the iPad-exclusive pressure-sensitive Wacom stylus for artists, despite stocking Wacom tablets. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YY3MSaUqMg

That's far from true, I bought my FiftyThree Pencil at Apple Store.

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surface pro 3 has been out for over a year. also has more storage capacity for all those comics you want to read.

I wouldn't touch the Surface in light of Windows 10's issues with privacy. (Not that iOS doesn't have some issues itself.)

Well put Linux on it then. No one's forcing you to use Windows.

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It is not a "technical bias", it is more your bias towards Apple. Take the last year's iPhone 6 as an example: HN members complained about small screen sizes for a long time, and it took Steve Job's death to actually make that happen, but gues what? iPhone 6 is most succesfull iPhone ever. Apple did some innovations few years ago (original iPhone, iPad), but since then most of new features in Apple products are taken…

So 3D Touch is something Android has? This is mostly a tongue-in-cheek comment, but the broader point is that of course Apple has "innovated" since the original iPhone, iPad, iWhatever. In some big ways, and in some small ways. But so have other players in the industry. Apple has borrowed some good ideas from them, just as they have borrowed good ideas from Apple. However saying Apple hasn't innovated since those ori…

Actually... It does. Huawei did a demo about it a few months ago.

http://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-mate-s-force-touch-ha...

It's okay to live inside a ecosystem, but don't pretend to know what happens outside it.

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It's the standard ". No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame. " response. http://slashdot.org/story/01/10/23/1816257/apple-releases-ip...

To be fair, I liked my Nomad Zen Xtra way better than the 1-3rd Gen iPod.

The Nomad II was my dream gadget. I absolutely loved it.

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Even taking usability into account, an argument can be made that iPad Pro is neither here nor there. Consider a simple use case: let's say iPad Pro is the sole enterprise device handed out to employees at a company. AFAIK, even a simple thing like compressing multiple files (given irrational attachment size limits won't be going away any time soon) and sending them via email will be impossible given how closed and pa…

File management - new built-in app in iOS 9: http://www.businessinsider.com/this-hidden-app-in-ios-9-lets... Compressing multiple files - this has actually been possible since iOS 8: http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/winzipr-for-ios-now...

By that definition of file management it is the same as e.g. the Dropbox app isn't it? Not "true" file management like iFile or such apps (jb).

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The problem is that after a string of successes like iMac, iPod, iTunes, iPhone, there is no way to out-do that. There is no market so ripe for disruption that plays to Apple's strengths the way that the iPhone setup. That's why the iPad is so disappointing to analysts and why nothing Apple does is that impressive now. There is no opportunity for the next iPhone-level success in the market today. It's out there somew…

> There is no opportunity for the next iPhone-level success in the market today. Oh yes there is. The car. Very high margin. Plenty of opportunity to do something radically different.

Tesla is already there. I mean, Apple could still try, but they're not likely to come up with anything that people will consider "revolutionary".
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