Apple Unveils the iPad Pro • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by jakeva » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 10:51 PM UTC

therein wrote: post #411

ctdonath wrote: post #309

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Someone did a detailed comparison between the $19 Apple 500mW cube charger vs a no-name $4 lookalike. Short version: the former is an engineering marvel of efficiency, compactness, and safety ... while the latter is likely to kill someone. You may not appreciate the "diminishing returns" of increased quality for increased price, but Apple's bottom line shows a great many do.

Oh come on, that's such a sweeping generalization. Just because someone compared Apple's cube charger with one of thousands of knockoffs and found that the Apple charger actually adhered with the safety regulations does not mean that Apple's accessories are appropriately priced due to their quality. It doesn't even mean the charger deserves the $19 price tag. How about the iPhone 6 docks, are they also a marvel of en…

He or she didn't claim they were 'appropriately priced' and since such a claim is subjective to begin with nobody is forcing you to pay for things you feel are too expensive. Buy whatever you want. His or her argument seems to be, and I would agree, that the quality is higher with an Apple charger. If you don't feel the price corresponds, that's totally fine with everyone involved.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by josephpmay » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 10:51 PM UTC

jameshart wrote: post #257

I found it interesting that there was no mention of handwriting recognition for the pencil input - just not on the radar, it seems. Probably for the best, it's always been a disappointment on every device it's been used on. Official support for an external keyboard for iPad is interesting - among the 'professional' kinds of applications that might now become possible to use on a device like this are development tools…

Eat Up Martha

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by lotharbot » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 10:52 PM UTC

epmatsw wrote: post #341

saturdaysaint wrote: post #251

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And so it continues, I point out that this has been said of every Apple announcement since Jobs' return.

"No wifi, less space than a Nomad. Lame."

in 2001, it was.

Check out the sales figures [0]. Consumers didn't begin to adopt the iPod in detectable numbers until the third generation (when it got USB syncing), and it didn't really take off until the fourth (full USB connectivity, various other improvements.)

[0] http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/ipod-sales_n_468000...

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by sigmar » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 10:53 PM UTC

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I dunno - Apple kind of killed NFC adoption by waiting so long to finally include it. They should have had it back in 2012.

That's because they are not a OEM that throws hardware together trying to differentiate, no matter what the software using it will be like. Apple added NFC the day they had the software and the service ready, with all the intricacies in making a secure and private payment system, that works offline, is as fast or faster than swiping a card with no passwords to type, and that makes them make money but without charging…

>Apple added NFC the day they had the software and the service ready, with all the intricacies in making a secure and private payment system, that works offline, is as fast or faster than swiping a card with no passwords to type...

What specific changes have made it possible for NFC to work in this way? All those things you listed seem possible in 2012.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by 0x4a42 » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 10:53 PM UTC

comex wrote: post #229

untog wrote: post #66

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A lot of artists use Surface Pros.

Until now, Surface Pro had no competition in this specific niche, except some Android devices that are likely inferior in hardware and app support. Now it does. Every app for iPad is designed for touch from the start, including the Photoshop port etc., meaning the touch experience for artistry will be better; the question is whether the inability to switch to a trackpad afterward for more precise editing and more com…

Photoshop port for iOS? Where? All I can see are toy-touch-up apps using the "Photoshop" name-brand. But now way a Photoshop port.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 10:55 PM UTC

robotresearcher wrote: post #500

icebraining wrote: post #451

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I suppose that's why Apple devices are so much cheaper than the competitors.

Yep, you can find cheaper products with more ports. Go buy one and be happy. This one is the mindshare, design and profit leader, which is why we're talking about it.

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by realityking » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 10:56 PM UTC

robotresearcher wrote: post #385

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Apple is a US company and the keynote is in the US. Inches are not considered "uncool" nor "old fashioned" in the US. The US tried switching to metric many years ago, but it didn't work. I'm sure their localized advertising for other countries lists the dimensions in metric units.

Nope. The UK and German stores give e.g. iPad Air 2 thickness in mm, weight in grams and screen size in inches. They are sticking to inches deliberately for screen measurement. They even use the German 9,7" instead of the US/UK 9.7" so it's not that they forgot to translate.

Oddly enough, screen sizes are one of the things that are measures in imperial units all over the world. Another example would be engines, where horsepower is incredibly popular.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by untog » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 10:57 PM UTC

mythz wrote: post #494

untog wrote: post #439

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Say you're composing an e-mail and you want to attach a Word doc you downloaded - how do you do that on an iPad?

The functionality is available within the context of the feature you're using. If it's a Word document you open the document, click the share icon and click "Send Attachment". Apple's Pages also has a Share icon that even lets you easily convert to Word, PDF, or ePub format before sending. For attaching whilst composing an email in Gmail (what I use) there's an "Attach" icon that lets you attach photos or files from…

And does that sound user friendly to you?

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by y_u_no_rust » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 10:59 PM UTC

billconan wrote: post #418

bigtunacan wrote: post #135

The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

I draw, I like the ipad pro and will get one. I own surface 3 pro also for the same reason. But I don't like it and it can be bigger.

the 14 inch surface pro is only a month or so away

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by ZanyProgrammer » Wed, Sep 09, 2015, 11:00 PM UTC

X-Istence wrote: post #291

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #211

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Because its called the iPad Pro ?

And the only Pro users are going to be developers/programmers, right? How about my doctor while he visits patients, or my dentist to show me my X-rays easily, or the automative tech that plugs in an OBDII module and instantly sees information on the large screen... Those people are professionals, and that is what this is geared towards, not just developers.

Actually I don't think the iPad Pro (or any iOS device) is geared towards programmers.