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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by Retra »

revscat wrote: post #55
wnevets wrote: post #35

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> While I do agree Jobs was saying that no one wants to use a stylus to use their devices, you have to admit this stylus is a pretty good idea. The apple distortion field is running at maximum.

No. No one wants to be required to use a stylus to successfully use a device. This is true, and remains so. What has become apparent is that there is a need -- especially for artists -- for a tool more fine-grained than a finger if you want to do more complicated tasks.

Artists could also use electronic paint brushes, erasers, and chalk, too.

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Post by jrochkind1 »

incepted wrote: post #395
zerohm wrote: post #300

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Yes, they are playing catch up in the cover keyboard and stylus categories. However, they are still dominating mobile, revamping their TV line, and growing in a shrinking PC market. Oh and also they just released a pretty successful watch. Just saying, I think Apple is still a pretty innovative company.

The only reason why they are growing is because they have a much smaller market share. Which is why Tim Cook only revealed relative numbers: Apple is falling behind a bit more every year in absolute numbers.

That doesn't even make sense; the only way they could be growing in relative market share but shrinking in absolute numbers is if the market is shrinking, and I'm pretty sure it's not.

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Post by comex »

WorldWideWayne wrote: post #294
criddell wrote: post #284

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Probably the same. Apple[1] has done a lot of work on this the last few years and IBM[2] is making huge bets on iOS. [1] http://www.apple.com/ipad/business/it/management.html [2] http://www.ibm.com/mobilefirst/us/en/mobilefirst-for-ios/

Ok. Easier to build for? In a business environment that's running all Windows servers and workstations? I don't know any small or medium sized businesses that employ iOS devs in-house... You need Macs to build iOS software. Meanwhile, you can find Visual Studio already being employed in most business IT shops to build custom desktop and web software. I can't remember the last time I saw a job ad for an iOS developer…

iPad also has the advantage of being sexy these days even to more old fashioned types. See the push to use them in 1:1 programs in high schools, even though the amount of writing/typing involved in most high school classes would seem to recommend something with a good keyboard...

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Post by smitherfield »

robotresearcher wrote: post #385
cyrus_ wrote: post #351

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Apple is a US company and the keynote is in the US. Inches are not considered "uncool" nor "old fashioned" in the US. The US tried switching to metric many years ago, but it didn't work. I'm sure their localized advertising for other countries lists the dimensions in metric units.

Nope. The UK and German stores give e.g. iPad Air 2 thickness in mm, weight in grams and screen size in inches. They are sticking to inches deliberately for screen measurement. They even use the German 9,7" instead of the US/UK 9.7" so it's not that they forgot to translate.

You know they use inches in the UK too.

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Post by tonycoco »

mnglkhn2 wrote: post #347
bigtunacan wrote: post #135

The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

Apple is moving full steam towards enterprise. All these partnerships with IBM and the like are to push iOS tablets into the corporate world. iPad Pro is at a perfect price point and feature set for businesses. Healthcare, retail and entertainment are industries that will embrace it fully.

You can already see it in action. Go to a Tesla showroom, a boutique clothier, a Square-enabled café, etc. They are all embracing the iPad as a multi-functional device. Oh, and those aren't usually even considered "enterprise" clients.

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Post by Watabou »

pearjuice wrote: post #98

>It's like we said on the iPad, if you see a stylus, they blew it. >In multitasking, if you see a task manager... they blew it. >Users shouldn't ever have to think about it. Steve Jobs, 2010[0] [0] http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/jobs-if-you-see-a-stylus-...

I think as we've seen on Surfaces and on many other tablets, styluses can be pretty useful for pro-sumers.

So why not allow Apple to eat their own words and create a well-designed easy to use, functional stylus? The only downside here is it's $50 too expensive.

On your second point, where do you see a task manager? You can only see apps when bringing up multitasking in iOS 9. There is no "task manager" where you have a list of running processes with CPU percentages and everything.

And since iOS 9 handles running apps by itself, users don't have to close out any apps so they really don't "ever have to think about it".

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Post by untog »

mythz wrote: post #422
vezzy-fnord wrote: post #414

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It's one thing to have a persistent object store instead of a file system (as the Newton did). It's wholly another to have a file system at the core of your OS but just pretend it doesn't exist. That's a regressive obfuscation, not encapsulation. (Yes, I understand who the target audience is.)

Apple's primary focus is on UX simplicity and Customers couldn't care less how it's implemented behind the scenes, they just want to get stuff done, find the Word document they were working on or see the Photo or Video they just took. The less Customers have to know about how technology works the happier they are, and the more successful Apple is.

Say you're composing an e-mail and you want to attach a Word doc you downloaded - how do you do that on an iPad?

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Post by bjacobel »

austenallred wrote: post #278
hashberry wrote: post #207

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And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

I really don't give a shit who is copying who. It's technology; we're all building on the backs of inventions created by other people. The important thing to me is who does it the best, not who does it first. The iPod was nowhere near the first mp3 player, it was just the best one. The iPad wasn't close to the first tablet. Will it be the best tablet? I don't know, but whether or not the Surface had a keyboard first…

The really galling part is the total refusal to admit they're not doing anything innovative. "There has never been another product like the iPad Pro before" was a real quote from today's presentation, and is a complete falsehood.
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