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Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by goldfeld »

rsync wrote: post #283
bigtunacan wrote: post #135

The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

"since at least it runs a real operating system designed for "pro" use not the closed eco system that is iOS." So, if a big ipad like this is a "pro" device, where does a fully functional computing device, running UNIX, that you interact with on the command line fit in ? I'm speaking of (for instance) my mac pro running OSX. If what we see today is for "pros", then two questions come to mind: 1. What am I ? A wizard…

Yes, brace for it cause we'll be greybeards twice over on short notice.

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Post by hellofunk »

cookiecaper wrote: post #233
hashberry wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

It is so crazy how this is the PC wars all over again. Apple comes out of the gate with huge marketshare, begins to lose it due to their insufferable snobbery, panics and tries to copy everyone without alienating their base of insufferable snobs and with frilly copies that only the kool-aid drinkers fall for, and continues its descent into irrelevance. Will Samsung have to save Apple from extinction in 10 years in or…

If this comment isn't the pot calling the kettle black.

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Post by KeytarHero »

austenallred wrote: post #189
bigtunacan wrote: post #135

The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

> For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying a Macbook Air. Apple has dozens of devices for dozens of use cases and types of buyers. I would never use the new MacBook (not good enough specs), and most of HN thinks it's a terrible idea. But my wife loves it. She doesn't need to run a virtual…

I see this attitude of "I don't like this product that was never meant for my use case, therefore nobody else will want it either" a lot among tech people, and HN is no exception. Just look at yesterday's comments on the Raspberry Pi touch screen [1]. Or really, the comments on almost any large consumer-oriented product launch.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10184510

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Post by camillomiller »

bigtunacan wrote: post #135

The announcements today just make me hang my head in chagrin. I love Apple products. Both my wife and I only use Macbooks, we have multiple iPads, iPods, and a second generation Apple TV. I look at this iPad Pro though and I see a totally useless device. For a device at that size, weight, and cost you would be better served buying an Macbook Air. If you want a tablet form factor then you would be better served buying…

This comment is exactly why HN won't never understand anything about Apple announcements. Highly technical folks, unable to get out of their technical bias, reprimanding the extremely successful decision makers of a successful company because they pretend to know the matter, while completely ignoring the real world scenarios that actually drive Apple products sales.

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Post by happyscrappy »

bdcravens wrote: post #277
dragonwriter wrote: post #234

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Well, in that case, the word "Apple" is really unnecessary. That's true in pretty much every product announcement thread.

Yes, but it seems that Apple tends to bring out the worst in people on both sides (fans and foes)

Love and hate are not equivalent. If you hate Apple you are here to troll.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by nawitus »

zerohm wrote: post #300
hashberry wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And so it begins... the once innovative company is now playing catch up, losing a little bit of its sex appeal as it copies the bland competition.

Yes, they are playing catch up in the cover keyboard and stylus categories. However, they are still dominating mobile, revamping their TV line, and growing in a shrinking PC market. Oh and also they just released a pretty successful watch. Just saying, I think Apple is still a pretty innovative company.

How do you define dominating mobile? There are far more Android smartphones.

Re: Apple Unveils the iPad Pro

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Post by robotresearcher »

asdtgy wrote: post #310
robotresearcher wrote: post #213

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> no USB port to be able to easily copy files to/from It's networked. iCloud, Dropbox, email, etc. > as well as no way to connect an external display for presentations. All current iPads have a dongle for HDMI out. And they can output to Apple TV. Do you think they removed that for this one? Despite the cute size and gorgeous screen I still haven't found a great use for the iPad. edit: Just looked at the dongles avai…

"let's make everything a dongle"... that is to be expected from Apple ... or being completely unavailable... and stick to proprietary ports...

"let's not make everyone carry around the cost and size of the ports they won't use."

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Post by chronic41 »

Someone wrote: post #263
slg wrote: post #24

It is interesting comparing Microsoft and Apple's convertible tablet strategy. Microsoft's devices use the full OS and are basically laptops first and tablets second while Apple is doing the opposite. If this is truly designed to be "Pro" as in enterprise , I think Microsoft's strategy is going to lead to more productive and therefore better enterprise devices. EDIT: And after the price is revealed the scales tip a l…

The risk with Microsoft's approach is that companies will think "our Windows app runs fine on Surface" and invest little on making their application work great on Surface because they form a small part of the market. The risk with Apple's approach is that companies will think "it's too much work to make a custom UI for such a small market". I guess time will tell who wins this. Possibly, things will go like they went…

There's no need to "time will tell who wins." The Surface has already won for the past 3 years.
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