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A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

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Re: A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

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Angela Merkel publicly encouraged immigrants to come Bullshit.

The EU has been encouraging migration for years for there supposed 'demographic crisis'. This is reported on regally in the press if you care to research.

The EU has been encouraging migration for years for there supposed 'demographic crisis'

Oh, so now it's not Merkel but the EU.

This is reported on regally in the press if you care to research.

I'm not the one making bullshit claims here. The onus is on you to name your sources.

Re: A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

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Outrageous that they'd bring European solidarity into this. /s

If Germany wanted to really help those refugees as it pretends then it should have allocated X millions of euros from its budget and should have sent humanitarian aid in Turkey where these immigrants are living currently. Encouraging those immigrants to continue to trample all the borders and countries between Turkey and Germany at great risk of dying on the road and complete chaos, is not a wise thing to do if Germa…

So you think it is better that Turkey shoulders 1.6m extra inhabitants, while Europe gets all excitable about a few hundred thousand?

Re: A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

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There is a coordinated media attempt across the EU to spin positive 'messaging' onto the refugee crisis. But make no mistake this is a total disaster for the refugees, member state Citizens and the EU bureaucracy. The EU has been exposed once again as an incompetent overreaching poorly though dangerously romantic mistake. Continuous failures of ECB policy, the collapse of Greece under the EURO, the PIGS in serious tr…

How is it coordinated?

It is coordinated in the Press. The EU has its own Press agents that work with all Member state media and the international Press Including the USA. When the global press put a front page picture of a drowned Syrian Child on there covers it is a Coordinated release. Media Messaging is the bread and butter of the News Media. This story is part of Messageing to set the 'tone'.

Re: A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

#25
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There is a coordinated media attempt across the EU to spin positive 'messaging' onto the refugee crisis. But make no mistake this is a total disaster for the refugees, member state Citizens and the EU bureaucracy. The EU has been exposed once again as an incompetent overreaching poorly though dangerously romantic mistake. Continuous failures of ECB policy, the collapse of Greece under the EURO, the PIGS in serious tr…

What I don't understand is why us Europeans have to pay for the adventurism of the NATO; I wish all the refugees moved to Israel and the US, to be honest. Once again Putin is right, and this uncovers how a permanent conflict at the arab world is in the interest of the NATO and the US/Israel-aligned world overall.

You do realize that Europe is part of the US aligned world and the only thing preventing Europe from becoming Putin's playground is NATO?

Re: A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

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post #6

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You are lying at "Third". Angela Merkel publicly encouraged immigrants to come (and die trying) by promising that Germany will host all the people who arrive in Germany and several days later when the reported numbers of immigrants became alarming, Germany and France announced "a plan" (IMPOSSED behind scenes) to distribute the immigrants to other EU states because "solidarity and bla bla bla". That is extremely unfa…

Angela Merkel publicly encouraged immigrants to come Bullshit.

www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/25/angela-merkel-visit-asylum-shelter-attacks

The government has announced a relaxing of the Dublin agreement, under which refugees are supposed to be sent back to the country in which they entered the EU to apply for asylum. Many war refugees, particularly from Syria, were being sent back to Italy and Greece. Germany has now said it will process the majority of such claims.

Merkel’s deputy and economics minister, Sigmar Gabriel, and the foreign minister, Frank-Walter Steinmeier, both of the Social Democrats, a junior partner in Germany’s coalition government, have proposed a 10-point plan for Europe’s response to the refugee crisis. The pair called for a unified EU-wide response including fair distribution of refugees across Europe.

“As Europeans we owe it to ourselves and to the world to rise to the great challenge posed by these people looking for help,” they wrote. “We must pursue a European asylum, refugee and migration policy that is founded on the principle of solidarity and our shared values of humanity.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/26/us-europe-migrants...

"There is no tolerance for those people who question the dignity of others, no tolerance for those who are not willing to help where legal and human help is required," Merkel told reporters and local people in the town of Heidenau.

"The more people who make that clear ... the stronger we will be," she said, offering a message of support to those who have suffered abuse.

Re: A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it coordinated?

It is coordinated in the Press. The EU has its own Press agents that work with all Member state media and the international Press Including the USA. When the global press put a front page picture of a drowned Syrian Child on there covers it is a Coordinated release. Media Messaging is the bread and butter of the News Media. This story is part of Messageing to set the 'tone'.

The EU has its own Press agents that work with all Member state media and the international Press Including the USA.

It really hurts to read this kind of drivel on HN. This is not how the press works. "The press" is not an uniform entity. This is not how any of this works.

Please take your conspiracy theories elsewhere.

Re: A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

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That is not true. First, Germany has a problem with social support even for Germans, Hartz 4 is horribly low and injust. Financial social support is one of the problems currently with the immigrants: It is basically non-existant. No EU region has a lower median salary than this. Second, Immigrants are not guests, they are immigrants or fugitives, and possibly supposed to stay. Third, Germany demands nothing new from…

> First, Germany has a problem with social support even for Germans, Hartz 4 is horribly low and injust. Hartz 4 (long-term unemplyment aid) is basically what the country can sustainably pay without getting into the same debt spiral of Greece, etc. It's enough to survive, but not much more. > Financial social support is one of the problems currently with the immigrants: It is basically non-existant. No EU region has…

Greetings from a German. While everybody discusses if Germany can afford fugitives and Hartz 4, some more realistic newspapers post that German rich have become richer and richer over the last 5 years. Until now Germany is probably one of the countries that gained the most from this century's crises. It's just that it's not shared properly between all people. Old, sick and unemployed probably have lost since 2010 because of politics not because of economic crisis.

Re: A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

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post #16

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What I don't understand is why us Europeans have to pay for the adventurism of the NATO; I wish all the refugees moved to Israel and the US, to be honest. Once again Putin is right, and this uncovers how a permanent conflict at the arab world is in the interest of the NATO and the US/Israel-aligned world overall.

You do realize that Europe is part of the US aligned world and the only thing preventing Europe from becoming Putin's playground is NATO?

I would rather allow Europe to become Putin's playground than to allow the current situation to continue.

Re: A 22-year-old anti-Nazi song tops German charts again – to welcome refugees

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post #23

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If Germany wanted to really help those refugees as it pretends then it should have allocated X millions of euros from its budget and should have sent humanitarian aid in Turkey where these immigrants are living currently. Encouraging those immigrants to continue to trample all the borders and countries between Turkey and Germany at great risk of dying on the road and complete chaos, is not a wise thing to do if Germa…

So you think it is better that Turkey shoulders 1.6m extra inhabitants, while Europe gets all excitable about a few hundred thousand?

As a neighbor and active participant to the destabilization of Syria, yes Turkey should shoulder the consequences. Those people have to return to their homes after the war and not wander in a hostile Europe where they can't integrate.
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