Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull • Hacker News Board

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by howeyc » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:35 PM UTC

Sigh. This is just becoming the same as Cable TV.

In Cable TV days you had numerous premium channels you had to subscribe to which gave you access to movies/shows. You needed multiple subscriptions to get access to "all" the latest movies/content.

Today, you need numerous premium streaming subscriptions to get access to movies/shows. You need multiple subscriptions to get access to "all" the latest movies/content.

Nothing has changed. We now have "on-demand" instead of waiting for the station to play the movie/show we want to see. However, that is now available on Cable. So there is no differentiation that I can see between going on-line vs Cable.

The main winner will again be piracy, one place to access anything and everything. No commercials.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by Mithaldu » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:35 PM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #33

fpgeek wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh. I was hoping you were going for an analogy with self-checkout. That would have neatly and effectively pointed at the missing piece of the puzzle. Instead you went for the cheap moralizing, which can make you feel good but doesn't get anyone any closer to solving the problem.

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Responding to an earnest post with sarcasm is never a useful way to have a conversation, regardless how misguided the first post was.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

#43

Post by com2kid » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:36 PM UTC

Drakim wrote: post #36

chasing wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree completely. I also always laugh at those suckers standing in line at the grocery store. The customer experience of just picking out my Mountain Dew and ice cream sandwich and just walking straight out of the store without paying -- it's cheap, it's easy. You don't have to deal with pesky middle-men trying to take their cut. Astonishing. Such comfort.

It's not just that people have to stand in line. They also have to go between a bunch of different stores since Milk producers have an exclusive contract with Walmart and Bread producers have an exclusive contract with 7-Eleven. Furthermore, after you grab your Milk, the terms and services of the Milk states you have to sit and watch an advertisement on their projector before you are allowed to leave the store.

I already cannot get certain brands of milk at my local grocery store due to distribution agreements that in some ways resemble the distribution agreements that surround digital media.

I actually have had to visit 3 different major grocery stores to get the ingredients for one meal.

As for the advertisement? Well there are the ones on my receipt, the "coupon" that pops out, and possibly ads plastered on the side of the product I just purchased.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

#44

Post by commentzorro » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:37 PM UTC

happyscrappy wrote: post #28

seer wrote: post #14

I feel so sad for people forced to use the legal distribution channels - it must be such a chore to have to be informed which movie or series is available on which channel, have to switch between different apps / recommendation engines and have pay to every single middle men his toll, when their part could very well be free. Using pirate solutions seems such a great experience in comparison - a global free peer to pe…

I feel so sad for people who are completely pwned to save a few bucks. The convenience and value of a Netflix account is what is astonishing.

That is the entire point of the article. The convenience and value of Netflix was astonishing. But with half the content going away is it still?

Especially with Netflix saying the solution is to repurchase what you just got rid of (cable) in order to get that newly missing content back.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

#45

Post by dogma1138 » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:40 PM UTC

ascagnel_ wrote: post #31

dogma1138 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would pay much more if I could have a single place to look for content this is why I sub to 3 providers and also bought a box that aggregates all the streaming content i can access into a single library. But considering that no matter how much I pay I can't seem to get a reliable library these days and the bang for the buck degrades with every passing day I am more and more reluctant to continue using those service…

> I would pay much more if I could have a single place to look for content You're describing the traditional pay-TV model in an on-demand world. Every industrialized nation has one.

No I want a library like I had 2-3 years ago instead of a shrinking shell that it is today...

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:40 PM UTC

ascagnel_ wrote: post #31

dogma1138 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would pay much more if I could have a single place to look for content this is why I sub to 3 providers and also bought a box that aggregates all the streaming content i can access into a single library. But considering that no matter how much I pay I can't seem to get a reliable library these days and the bang for the buck degrades with every passing day I am more and more reluctant to continue using those service…

> I would pay much more if I could have a single place to look for content You're describing the traditional pay-TV model in an on-demand world. Every industrialized nation has one.

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Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

#47

Post by talmand » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:44 PM UTC

Drakim wrote: post #36

chasing wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree completely. I also always laugh at those suckers standing in line at the grocery store. The customer experience of just picking out my Mountain Dew and ice cream sandwich and just walking straight out of the store without paying -- it's cheap, it's easy. You don't have to deal with pesky middle-men trying to take their cut. Astonishing. Such comfort.

It's not just that people have to stand in line. They also have to go between a bunch of different stores since Milk producers have an exclusive contract with Walmart and Bread producers have an exclusive contract with 7-Eleven. Furthermore, after you grab your Milk, the terms and services of the Milk states you have to sit and watch an advertisement on their projector before you are allowed to leave the store.

Or you could just stop buying the milk.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

#48

Post by happyscrappy » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:45 PM UTC

commentzorro wrote: post #44

happyscrappy wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel so sad for people who are completely pwned to save a few bucks. The convenience and value of a Netflix account is what is astonishing.

That is the entire point of the article. The convenience and value of Netflix was astonishing. But with half the content going away is it still? Especially with Netflix saying the solution is to repurchase what you just got rid of (cable) in order to get that newly missing content back.

It will depend on the specifics and the users taste. For me I don't have enough time to watch what is in my queue already. People who have lots of time and little money can futz around with being a pirate.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by talmand » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:45 PM UTC

com2kid wrote: post #43

Drakim wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just that people have to stand in line. They also have to go between a bunch of different stores since Milk producers have an exclusive contract with Walmart and Bread producers have an exclusive contract with 7-Eleven. Furthermore, after you grab your Milk, the terms and services of the Milk states you have to sit and watch an advertisement on their projector before you are allowed to leave the store.

I already cannot get certain brands of milk at my local grocery store due to distribution agreements that in some ways resemble the distribution agreements that surround digital media. I actually have had to visit 3 different major grocery stores to get the ingredients for one meal. As for the advertisement? Well there are the ones on my receipt, the "coupon" that pops out, and possibly ads plastered on the side of t…

> I actually have had to visit 3 different major grocery stores to get the ingredients for one meal.

I'm sorry, I seriously doubt that.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

#50

Post by talmand » Tue, Sep 01, 2015, 1:49 PM UTC

howeyc wrote: post #41

Sigh. This is just becoming the same as Cable TV. In Cable TV days you had numerous premium channels you had to subscribe to which gave you access to movies/shows. You needed multiple subscriptions to get access to "all" the latest movies/content. Today, you need numerous premium streaming subscriptions to get access to movies/shows. You need multiple subscriptions to get access to "all" the latest movies/content. No…

It was inevitable. Companies are trying to do their best to maintain their business models. The customer experience, as always, is the last factor to be considered.