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Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by ascagnel_ »

dogma1138 wrote: post #10
jamespo wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So what you want is the service to be very cheap and have a massive amount of content available.

I would pay much more if I could have a single place to look for content this is why I sub to 3 providers and also bought a box that aggregates all the streaming content i can access into a single library. But considering that no matter how much I pay I can't seem to get a reliable library these days and the bang for the buck degrades with every passing day I am more and more reluctant to continue using those service…

> I would pay much more if I could have a single place to look for content

You're describing the traditional pay-TV model in an on-demand world. Every industrialized nation has one.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by jerf »

rch wrote: post #25
seer wrote: post #14

I feel so sad for people forced to use the legal distribution channels - it must be such a chore to have to be informed which movie or series is available on which channel, have to switch between different apps / recommendation engines and have pay to every single middle men his toll, when their part could very well be free. Using pirate solutions seems such a great experience in comparison - a global free peer to pe…

Just point me to the 'pirate solution' that can sustainably produce and deliver original content.

By definition, that's not piracy, that's content production.

The real answer to your real question is probably Patreon. Usually you can't "pirate" the results of Patreon because they're freely released anyhow. Kickstarter to a lesser extent, but that site seems less focused on "content" production and more on "thing" production. (Yes, there is a lot of "content" being done there, but I'm yet to see even a single such thing go really viral and big.)

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by [deleted] »

fpgeek wrote: post #29
chasing wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree completely. I also always laugh at those suckers standing in line at the grocery store. The customer experience of just picking out my Mountain Dew and ice cream sandwich and just walking straight out of the store without paying -- it's cheap, it's easy. You don't have to deal with pesky middle-men trying to take their cut. Astonishing. Such comfort.

Sigh. I was hoping you were going for an analogy with self-checkout. That would have neatly and effectively pointed at the missing piece of the puzzle. Instead you went for the cheap moralizing, which can make you feel good but doesn't get anyone any closer to solving the problem.

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Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by mcphage »

fpgeek wrote: post #29
chasing wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree completely. I also always laugh at those suckers standing in line at the grocery store. The customer experience of just picking out my Mountain Dew and ice cream sandwich and just walking straight out of the store without paying -- it's cheap, it's easy. You don't have to deal with pesky middle-men trying to take their cut. Astonishing. Such comfort.

Sigh. I was hoping you were going for an analogy with self-checkout. That would have neatly and effectively pointed at the missing piece of the puzzle. Instead you went for the cheap moralizing, which can make you feel good but doesn't get anyone any closer to solving the problem.

> which can make you feel good but doesn't get anyone any closer to solving the problem

That does a better job of describing piracy.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by mcv »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #11
commentzorro wrote: post #7

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I agree. I just dropped my cable subscription and switched to Netflix 6 weeks ago. I switched not because there was nothing to watch on cable but because the prices had gotten so far out of whack. Netflix had enough to watch at a reasonable price to make it a good deal. But, outside of Daredevil, I don't find its own content very compelling. (Too much "Soap Opera In Disguise" for my tastes. I blame "Game of Thrones"…

Would you consider switching from Netflix to Hulu? From the article... "Rival US service Hulu will take on the Epix catalogue. "Our subscribers have been asking us for more, and more recent, big movies," Hulu said. "We listened. Through this new deal with Epix, we are proud to now be able to offer a huge selection of the biggest blockbusters and premium films.""

Is Hulu available outside the US?

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by Drakim »

chasing wrote: post #24
seer wrote: post #14

I feel so sad for people forced to use the legal distribution channels - it must be such a chore to have to be informed which movie or series is available on which channel, have to switch between different apps / recommendation engines and have pay to every single middle men his toll, when their part could very well be free. Using pirate solutions seems such a great experience in comparison - a global free peer to pe…

I agree completely. I also always laugh at those suckers standing in line at the grocery store. The customer experience of just picking out my Mountain Dew and ice cream sandwich and just walking straight out of the store without paying -- it's cheap, it's easy. You don't have to deal with pesky middle-men trying to take their cut. Astonishing. Such comfort.

It's not just that people have to stand in line. They also have to go between a bunch of different stores since Milk producers have an exclusive contract with Walmart and Bread producers have an exclusive contract with 7-Eleven.

Furthermore, after you grab your Milk, the terms and services of the Milk states you have to sit and watch an advertisement on their projector before you are allowed to leave the store.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by sp332 »

tired_man wrote: post #26
seer wrote: post #14

I feel so sad for people forced to use the legal distribution channels - it must be such a chore to have to be informed which movie or series is available on which channel, have to switch between different apps / recommendation engines and have pay to every single middle men his toll, when their part could very well be free. Using pirate solutions seems such a great experience in comparison - a global free peer to pe…

Oh, yeah. It's not like there aren't half a dozen programs that will grab schedules and listings for you and even program a pcdvr.

I tried http://www.canistream.it/ but it's pretty unreliable. Do you have a better suggestion?

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Post by commentzorro »

chasing wrote: post #24
seer wrote: post #14

I feel so sad for people forced to use the legal distribution channels - it must be such a chore to have to be informed which movie or series is available on which channel, have to switch between different apps / recommendation engines and have pay to every single middle men his toll, when their part could very well be free. Using pirate solutions seems such a great experience in comparison - a global free peer to pe…

I agree completely. I also always laugh at those suckers standing in line at the grocery store. The customer experience of just picking out my Mountain Dew and ice cream sandwich and just walking straight out of the store without paying -- it's cheap, it's easy. You don't have to deal with pesky middle-men trying to take their cut. Astonishing. Such comfort.

Oh please ... spare us. You're comparing physical goods that have to be physically transport, stored, distributed, etc. Goods where some (admittedly minimal in your Mt. Dew example) scarcity is involved.

The parent is talking about goods where there is effectively no (or again, minimal) cost for transport, storage, or distribution. And absolutely no scarcity.

Nobody is saying we refuse to pay for digital content. We just want to pay a reasonable price. But most most important, we don't want ANY _artificial_ restrictions on transport, storage, distribution, and ESPECIALLY consumption.

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by sp332 »

[deleted] wrote: post #33
fpgeek wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh. I was hoping you were going for an analogy with self-checkout. That would have neatly and effectively pointed at the missing piece of the puzzle. Instead you went for the cheap moralizing, which can make you feel good but doesn't get anyone any closer to solving the problem.

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Netflix has an extremely limited selection. Pirate Bay has much better coverage. seer's point is that there's plenty of room for improvement in the legal streaming business. There's no reason it has to be this hard for the user to give studios money.

(edit) Here's a concrete example: a list of movies I have wanted to see. Only 3 of the movies on my list are available via streaming, and they are each on a different service! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1atQ1ZHAoI6SC9a4Qk9MF...

Re: Netflix takes gamble with Epix film cull

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Post by commentzorro »

throwaway23545 wrote: post #27
seer wrote: post #14

I feel so sad for people forced to use the legal distribution channels - it must be such a chore to have to be informed which movie or series is available on which channel, have to switch between different apps / recommendation engines and have pay to every single middle men his toll, when their part could very well be free. Using pirate solutions seems such a great experience in comparison - a global free peer to pe…

Want something more than a year old or a little less than mainstream? Good luck finding an active torrent. Maybe you'll find one with incredible bandwidth where the CD or TV show from a year or two back you seek can download at all instead of sitting stalled at some random percentage. You seem to be describing the picture of 4 or 5 years back rather than now

So what you're saying is to use Amazon Prime and Netflix for the older content but torrent the newer stuff? ;-)
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