Does anyone have links to audio samples where these differences are prominent? In addition to comments, this video has a decent comparison using sawtooth tones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlp-OH0OEA
I went looking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBt6APk21tU
Well vs. Equal Temperament (2000)
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#22Can this be applied to an electric piano to get a similar type of colour in the sound?
Might be a little tricky to set up, though, since only a few DAWs and plugins support it.
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#23It's all fun and games until you start trying to tune a guitar. Pianos have it easy.
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#24Does anyone have links to audio samples where these differences are prominent? In addition to comments, this video has a decent comparison using sawtooth tones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlp-OH0OEA
Wouldn't that be nice, rather than whining about numbers? It's an informative article, but the reality is that nobody cares . And I mean "nobody" in the approximate sense of 99.9% of music listeners. The reality is that our brains are more than happy to glue these nasty thirds to their hypothetical frequencies. Sure, they have a little roughness to them, but it's not a big deal, especially considering that most piano…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbershop_music#Ringing_cho...
Two examples of fairly audible ringing (probably start a little before my timestamps to get a little context):
http://youtu.be/KpBRetTqnqQ at 3:07
http://youtu.be/z9L4QEptVRo at 4:23
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't that be nice, rather than whining about numbers? It's an informative article, but the reality is that nobody cares . And I mean "nobody" in the approximate sense of 99.9% of music listeners. The reality is that our brains are more than happy to glue these nasty thirds to their hypothetical frequencies. Sure, they have a little roughness to them, but it's not a big deal, especially considering that most piano…
To make matters worse, or maybe better, most non keyboard instruments have no sensible temperament whatsoever. Even fretted instruments are a compromise.
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#26There is some debate as to whether Bach intended equal-temperament or well-temperament. These terms were not well-defined in his day. https://books.google.com/books?id=yZ95L8Xohs0C&pg=PA4
I thought that was a crackpot theory, but then he played some pieces in their respective individual tuning systems on a harpsichord, and they sounded absolutely amazing, better than well tempered (or equal obviously). So who knows!
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#27It's all fun and games until you start trying to tune a guitar. Pianos have it easy.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
I went looking. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBt6APk21tU
Thank you. That is astounding. I wonder if there is any way to find music performed using original tunings. It sounds SO much better to me.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10145785
And another clip I uploaded of using pitch-detecting software on a studio recording (notice it detects a lot more than 4 simultaneous notes, because it's "hearing" overtones):
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#29Does anyone have links to audio samples where these differences are prominent? In addition to comments, this video has a decent comparison using sawtooth tones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlp-OH0OEA
Wouldn't that be nice, rather than whining about numbers? It's an informative article, but the reality is that nobody cares . And I mean "nobody" in the approximate sense of 99.9% of music listeners. The reality is that our brains are more than happy to glue these nasty thirds to their hypothetical frequencies. Sure, they have a little roughness to them, but it's not a big deal, especially considering that most piano…
in the approximate sense of 99.9% of music listeners.
The best thing about the Internet is that connects the other .1% that actually care, and the rest of humanity that has no appreciation of good music can ignore it. And really, the great composers of the future will be part of that tiny minority.Seriously though, it would be amazing to have mainstream acceptance and performance of classical works in their intended tunings. That would be cool. Half the stuff just doesn't sound right in equal temperament.
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#30Does anyone have links to audio samples where these differences are prominent? In addition to comments, this video has a decent comparison using sawtooth tones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRlp-OH0OEA
Wendy Carlos released a 2nd version of her Bach Brandenberg Concertos that were done using period tuning on synthesizers including modulations. perhaps you can compare the two.