Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list

Post by vtlynch » Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 2:32 PM UTC

brudgers wrote: post #17

One feature of Windows is defaulting to not showing messy complexity to the user. The other feature is defaulting to backward compatibility. Combined, this means that Windows often has more than two data stores for some aggregate feature [e.g. web browser security, software configuration etc.] as new versions of Windows implement these features in more robust ways. So yeah there are two or more places where certifica…

Post by TeMPOraL » Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 2:36 PM UTC

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Everyone talks about how great the alternatives for office are. Buy they are good. Not great. Even office word online is better than Google docs.

What is "better" about MS word than google docs? The only reason I see to use word is if you're using files from 1999 that don't work anywhere else. Google docs is a much simpler system, especially for places like schools because of the "cloud" nature of it. Google docs has all the features the average person needs. MSWord is for specialty cases, google docs and the open alternatives are for everyone else. I'm about…

Post by nightpool » Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 2:49 PM UTC

MatmaRex wrote: post #16

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What is "better" about MS word than google docs? The only reason I see to use word is if you're using files from 1999 that don't work anywhere else. Google docs is a much simpler system, especially for places like schools because of the "cloud" nature of it. Google docs has all the features the average person needs. MSWord is for specialty cases, google docs and the open alternatives are for everyone else. I'm about…

It's true that the average user uses maybe 20% of Word's features, and Google Docs have 50% of them. The problem is that each person uses a different 20%. One feature I personally needed and missed was to generate a table of contents with page numbers for each heading. I ended up exporting the doc to Word to do it, and in the process discovered that the exported document had a messed up layout in a few places.

Post by nightpool » Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 2:51 PM UTC

icebraining wrote: post #15

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What is "better" about MS word than google docs? The only reason I see to use word is if you're using files from 1999 that don't work anywhere else. Google docs is a much simpler system, especially for places like schools because of the "cloud" nature of it. Google docs has all the features the average person needs. MSWord is for specialty cases, google docs and the open alternatives are for everyone else. I'm about…

In my experience, Docs can't even reliably align the cursor with the position between characters (problem described here[1], except my zoom is at 100% already). Thankfully all my documents have very light formatting, so I can just write in Vim and then upload them. [1] http://www.podiohelp.com/google-docs-cursor-misaligned/

Post by scholia » Sat, Aug 29, 2015, 3:43 PM UTC

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I'll add to philtar's comment: Because senior management forces workers to use it. I'm a scientist who analyzes large data sets. I also need to communicate to my co-workers. I need a secure operating system without a lot of eye-candy that makes it look like a tablet and lets me give priority to my data analysis tasks. Windows is not it, but I have to use it.

But you can use things like Excel easily in a VM. Not pull your hair out hard, but easily . Then you can parse Excel or Word with Python in Linux easily . I just don't get how we still allow closed source operating systems for critical business tasks.