Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
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Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
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Re: Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
#2 CTLInfo is the result of a few sleepless nights spent
understanding and reverse engineering some of the CTL
obscure format
No matter how much time you put in, you will never win against an OS that is working against your interests.
Re: Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
#3CTLInfo is the result of a few sleepless nights spent understanding and reverse engineering some of the CTL obscure format I wonder what the reason is to use a userunfriendly system like Windows and then spend hours and hours fighting it? No matter how much time you put in, you will never win against an OS that is working against your interests.
1) Because MSFT provides great corporate support for desktops. Keyword: great. Not good. Great.
2) Because people are used to it.
3) Because Office products are the de facto standard, and they run best on windows.
I could go on, but you get the point.
Re: Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
#4CTLInfo is the result of a few sleepless nights spent understanding and reverse engineering some of the CTL obscure format I wonder what the reason is to use a userunfriendly system like Windows and then spend hours and hours fighting it? No matter how much time you put in, you will never win against an OS that is working against your interests.
For fun, to illustrate that it can't be trusted, because what you want to use isn't available for the alternatives. First few reasons that spring to mind.
Re: Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
#5CTLInfo is the result of a few sleepless nights spent understanding and reverse engineering some of the CTL obscure format I wonder what the reason is to use a userunfriendly system like Windows and then spend hours and hours fighting it? No matter how much time you put in, you will never win against an OS that is working against your interests.
1) Because MSFT provides great corporate support for desktops. Keyword: great. Not good. Great. 2) Because people are used to it. 3) Because Office products are the de facto standard, and they run best on windows. I could go on, but you get the point.
Everyone talks about how great the alternatives for office are. Buy they are good. Not great. Even office word online is better than Google docs.
Re: Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
#6Windows isn't lying. Microsoft openly lists what certificates Windows includes on their site. The fact the root certificate store on your machine only lists certificates it actually contains is to be expected.
This is just a UI failure.
Re: Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
#7CTLInfo is the result of a few sleepless nights spent understanding and reverse engineering some of the CTL obscure format I wonder what the reason is to use a userunfriendly system like Windows and then spend hours and hours fighting it? No matter how much time you put in, you will never win against an OS that is working against your interests.
I'll add to philtar's comment:
Because senior management forces workers to use it.
I'm a scientist who analyzes large data sets. I also need to communicate to my co-workers. I need a secure operating system without a lot of eye-candy that makes it look like a tablet and lets me give priority to my data analysis tasks. Windows is not it, but I have to use it.
Re: Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) Because MSFT provides great corporate support for desktops. Keyword: great. Not good. Great. 2) Because people are used to it. 3) Because Office products are the de facto standard, and they run best on windows. I could go on, but you get the point.
Everyone talks about how great the alternatives for office are. Buy they are good. Not great. Even office word online is better than Google docs.
What is "better" about MS word than google docs? The only reason I see to use word is if you're using files from 1999 that don't work anywhere else.
Google docs is a much simpler system, especially for places like schools because of the "cloud" nature of it. Google docs has all the features the average person needs.
MSWord is for specialty cases, google docs and the open alternatives are for everyone else.
I'm about to earn a masters degree and I've never needed to use MS word. Double spacing, page numbers, and aligning text work in just about every processor. I've rarely received a word document from a professor that used advanced features of word, they're always poorly formatted.
Re: Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
#9CTLInfo is the result of a few sleepless nights spent understanding and reverse engineering some of the CTL obscure format I wonder what the reason is to use a userunfriendly system like Windows and then spend hours and hours fighting it? No matter how much time you put in, you will never win against an OS that is working against your interests.
You're reading Hacker News and you want to know why someone would bother reverse engineering a closed source platform?
Re: Windows Certificate Manager does not display the complete trust list
#10CTLInfo is the result of a few sleepless nights spent understanding and reverse engineering some of the CTL obscure format I wonder what the reason is to use a userunfriendly system like Windows and then spend hours and hours fighting it? No matter how much time you put in, you will never win against an OS that is working against your interests.
I'll add to philtar's comment: Because senior management forces workers to use it. I'm a scientist who analyzes large data sets. I also need to communicate to my co-workers. I need a secure operating system without a lot of eye-candy that makes it look like a tablet and lets me give priority to my data analysis tasks. Windows is not it, but I have to use it.
But you can use things like Excel easily in a VM. Not pull your hair out hard, but easily. Then you can parse Excel or Word with Python in Linux easily.
I just don't get how we still allow closed source operating systems for critical business tasks.