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Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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Good riddance. Sometimes I forget to turn ad-block back on after testing stuff. Thanks Google.

Tip: use different user profiles. A "stock", "raw", or "testing" profile for unfiltered use.

Though better sandboxing would be my choice.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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I hope that Google takes the next, bigger step and kills its YouTube Flash player. The HTML5 one is superior in almost every way and so many browsers now support HTML5[1]. It would be a really meaningful statement. This is just a bit 'meh'.

[1] http://html5readiness.com/

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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I can already disable flash ads. Good luck disabling HTML 5 ads without browser plugins support.

I've gotten high mileage by blocking OVPs directly. I'm advocating doing this to encourage video providers to NOT enable autoplay on video. 0.0.0.0 www.autofixinfo.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 c.brightcove.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 player.theplatform.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 link.theplatform.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 ci-2862d2c8d6-68f418d2.http.atlas.cdn.yimg.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 video-img2.thedaily…

>* I've gotten high mileage by blocking VPNs directly.*

Uh... oh! You meant CDNs? I'd suspect there'd be a lot of collateral damage if you block entire CDNs, no?

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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> "essential" Flash content (such as embedded video players) are allowed to automatically run, while non-essential Flash content, much of that being advertisements, will be automatically paused. Can’t we just throw out all flash?

> Can’t we just throw out all flash? Way too much stuff needs it. For example fun little browser games. For example http://www.kongregate.com/ http://www.miniclip.com/ http://www.friv.com/ At least in my browser (Firefox on Linux) flash plays better than html5 for video.

Perhaps it's because I don't play browser-based games (or any games, for that matter) but I disabled Flash months and months ago and I don't seem to recall ever "missing out" on anything or even having to temporarily re-enable it.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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"Google's reasoning for the move is largely performance-based, apparently" Now if only they can start optimizing Chrome urgently, that'd be just great!

> "Google's reasoning for the move is largely performance-based, apparently" Yeah, because WebGL never crashes the browser (not even the kind of small demos that seems to be all it's used for).

I've been developing WebGL content for the past 18 months and, so far, it hasn't crashed from any WebGL issues. And that's with my code which is pretty awful most of the time.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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The irony is that while they recommend converting ads to html5 (or auto convert them with swiffy), the performance goes to shit as well, arguably even worse than flash would have been, at least on mobile. - http://venturebeat.com/2015/02/25/google-now-automatically-c... - https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=467709 - https://plus.google.com/+ArtemRussakovskii/posts/MtcZGJprWje

Just out of curiosity - could there be issues other than just performance here? For ex., could it be that Flash based ads can identify user/device contributing to privacy issues?

Flash also has a ton of vulnerabilities and a huge codebase, and according to Apple, caused a ton of crash reports from their computers.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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I can already disable flash ads. Good luck disabling HTML 5 ads without browser plugins support.

I've gotten high mileage by blocking OVPs directly. I'm advocating doing this to encourage video providers to NOT enable autoplay on video. 0.0.0.0 www.autofixinfo.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 c.brightcove.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 player.theplatform.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 link.theplatform.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 ci-2862d2c8d6-68f418d2.http.atlas.cdn.yimg.com # Autoplay video 0.0.0.0 video-img2.thedaily…

Yeah, but you can only do that in systems with access to DNS resolution.

Tablets, mobile phones and computer systems as normal user, no such luck.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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I got plugins disabled by default in Chrome for ages now (right click run plugin when needed). Before that on FF i had an add on that disabled autorun for flash also (very similar to how chrome does it with plugins gotta right click to load it). But if Google does it only for none Google adnetworks that's going to be a huge lawsuit. The article doesn't really clarify why would it work on Google own networks because t…

  But if Google does it only for none Google adnetworks that's going to be a huge lawsuit. The article doesn't really clarify why would it work on Google own networks because they convert to HTML5 or because they will white list their own stuff.
It's because their ad network converts stuff, at least that's the only way I can read these sentences:

  Google said advertisers who are worried about having their ads switched off should consider converting their Flash artwork to HTML5. According to the cyber-goliath, "most Flash ads uploaded to [Google] AdWords are automatically converted to HTML5."
  So, in other words, if you're not on Google's ad network, you're locked out of Chrome – unless you also switch to HTML5 artwork.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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I hope that Google takes the next, bigger step and kills its YouTube Flash player. The HTML5 one is superior in almost every way and so many browsers now support HTML5[1]. It would be a really meaningful statement. This is just a bit 'meh'. [1] http://html5readiness.com/

What irritates me is that flash is required for google music. I really like google music over all the other radio services, plus I have some music in my lib, but I've resorted to just looking up albums on youtube. If it's an absolute must have for some technical reason, a desktop client would be nice as an alternative.

Re: Chrome will begin pausing many Flash ads by default on September 1

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post #38

I got plugins disabled by default in Chrome for ages now (right click run plugin when needed). Before that on FF i had an add on that disabled autorun for flash also (very similar to how chrome does it with plugins gotta right click to load it). But if Google does it only for none Google adnetworks that's going to be a huge lawsuit. The article doesn't really clarify why would it work on Google own networks because t…

But if Google does it only for none Google adnetworks that's going to be a huge lawsuit. The article doesn't really clarify why would it work on Google own networks because they convert to HTML5 or because they will white list their own stuff. It's because their ad network converts stuff, at least that's the only way I can read these sentences: Google said advertisers who are worried about having their ads switched o…

I've read it, but I've also read the "most" part in it so it wasn't clear what will they do with Flash adds that cannot be converted.

The opening subtitle can be also interpreted both ways, in fact most people would say that "If your ads aren't on web giant's network, they better be HTML5 – or they're dead to Chrome." means that Google will block Flash from every source but Google.

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