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Ok, you really are lost. You know this isn't a car forum right? What is so confusing here? You sound like a dickhead "not in the car scene" How annoyingly, needlessly pretentious is that? The fact you say "car scene" on the internet makes you 200x more oblivious then what you're accusing him of being. Fucking car scene? Fucking weirdos, man!
well, you're right in that i'm kind of a dickhead.
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When it comes to in-car controls, you want to be able to use them without taking your eyes off the road. To this end, knobs that you can grasp for and feel the current setting are great. Knobs without a tactile indication of the current setting are OK, as you can find them without looking and only glance down to see that you are selecting the appropriate setting. Buttons are worse because you have to glance down to f…
> All of this looking at the screen means your eyes aren't on the road where they belong. ... which is why the HUD (for velocity, navigation) in my 6 years old BMW is my favourite feature. I don't understand why so few manufacturers offer one.
I can see that a HUD for showing animals detected by infrared is something you can't show on a dashboard.
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I understand that argument and the stats suggest most people don't need to charge on the road aside from road trips. By the time the Model S would need charged I'd be ready for a 30 minute break anyway. I still have range anxiety when my commute (before going remote) was a minimum of 120 miles per day. I'm not sure how accurate the 200 mile number is to know if it would be enough.
If your commute is 120 miles, you don't need a Tesla, you need a new place. Whatever the value of quick refueling, surely your sanity is more important.
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Of course. I fully recognize that the Tesla is a great car for a lot of people. I take issue, though, when those people start saying that it's so much better than other cars, pointing out the ways in which the Tesla is better but ignoring the ways in which the Tesla is worse.
Ways in which it's worse: range. Interior is debatable and subjective. The only concrete thing where it's worse is range. And everybody acknowledges that as far as I can see. The problem is that a lot of people don't understand how the stuff works, and imagine that the ways in which the Tesla is worse are much worse than they really are. Edit: range and price, actually. But everybody mentions the price too. Don't mis…
- price
- range
- needing to have a charging port at your residence
- charging time
- charger availability
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Maybe what's different in my case is that I was looking to only own one car. While the Tesla might be sufficient for what I need 90% of the time, I still need it to be able to go on long trips, because I do take them occasionally.
Rental?
EDIT: BTW, I think that electric cars are cool, and even got a garage in my house so that I can go electric some time in the future. But I can imagine that for some people, the lifestyle won't work for them. So for those people... its probably best to admit that Electric isn't for them.
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Dunno about the US, but here in the UK, if someone were to die in a car equipped with a button labeled "insane", for our tabloid press, that button would be the main focus and the car manufacturer would be hauled over the coals based on that alone. It would be sold to readers that having such a button encouraged insanity on the roads, and the manufacturer would be claimed to be irresponsible for having such a button.…
> ...[F]or our tabloid press, that button would be the main focus and the car manufacturer would be hauled over the coals based on that alone. When did tabloids change from the place where you went to get the latest scoop on The Amazing Bat Boy to publications that folks actually paid attention to? Similarly, should manufacturers design their products to be inoffensive to every bloviating, prevaricating alarmist with…
Hmmm aside from the Sunday Sport the UK hasn't really ever had that sort of relationship with tabloids. Celebrity news though? Yeah.
What I'd really like to see, and Tesla is already beginning to do it, is modular, upgrade-able cars. Like, a new engine, better in-car entertainment, better sound system, seat-heating, cruise control, distance control, semi/full automatic driving... if I could e.g. buy a stripped down Tesla as a student which I can then (given, of course, I don't crash it) upgrade over its lifetime as I put some money aside, instead…
This is actually a clever marketing trick by Elon Musk. You cannot upgrade a Roadster, and you cannot upgrade the P70 models either. Tesla has been pretty unclear about their modularity and upgrades. Be careful when reading marketing material: these marketing slides open your imagination but aren't necessarily filled with the truth. They've kept things vague to help stir our imaginations... but don't go dropping $70,…
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/roadster-30
http://gas2.org/2015/05/05/340-mile-tesla-roadster-upgrade-d...
I agree with your comment that it's easy to fantasize about upgrades that will never happen. Early Model S cars lack the hardware for driving assistance, and my friends who think they know about such things predict that additional computer power will be needed to achieve all that Elon is predicting for self-driving.
A better battery pack for all Model S cars, on the other hand, is likely to eventually show up. All existing cars can be upgraded to the 90 KWh battery, but Tesla is suggesting that everyone is better off waiting for a more significant upgrade later in your battery's life.
Just my 2 cents: I've driven both a P85D and a 2014 Porsche 911 4S cabriolet fairly extensively. Guess which one I decided to buy? The Porsche. These might not be two cars that are commonly cross-shopped, and the Tesla does beat the Porsche to 60 mph. Still, the Porsche was clearly the winner in just about every other way in my estimation. Anyone else have a similar experience?
Not sure how the Porsche was the winner in every way? Going from point A->B (work commute), is your foot hard on the pedal every day? Can you even have your foot all the way down (traffic)? Tesla wins by far in terms of energy-efficiency, luxury, capacity, and just overall being more useful than the Porsche (and still being fun to drive). The only minus is the price tag. But Porsches aren't cheap either. But yeah I u…
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How ridiculous would it be for a car company to give you a lifetime unlimited supply of gasoline along with the purchase of your car? Absolutely ridiculous. Guess what? That's exactly what Tesla does. http://www.teslamotors.com/supercharger Unlike gas cars, you start off with 200 miles of range EVERY MORNING since you charge overnight. Most Americans also only drive an average of 40 miles a day. And for those long tr…
How ridiculous would it be for a car company to give you a lifetime unlimited supply of gasoline - but you have to wait in line 30 minutes for it every time. And oh by the way, it's an hour from your house, and you'll use a third of a tank getting there and back. And there's only like 200 stations total worldwide. So... awesome, right? Oh, and we built the cost of those stations into the car, so it's not REALLY free.…