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Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by gnoway »

stephencanon wrote: post #29
rsync wrote: post #11

""They have an interesting rating system. It ends up representing the fact that all this performance and fuel efficiency comes out of a car that can seat 7 people. The variant that does 0-60 quicker and gives you AWD gives you better energy consumption. Things like these are what blew up their scale."" A few weeks ago (a month ago ?) BMW released the spec sheet / announcement for the new 7 series. And it's just sad.…

The driving dynamics of both cars are "sufficient", so those factors won't come into play at all for many buyers; the interior fit and finish (i.e. the factors that actually effect your life every day) of the Tesla leave a lot to be desired compared to the 7 series. Is it so unbelievable that other people may value different factors from you?

This is a strange comment. On the one hand you're chiding the parent for not considering other viewpoints, but on the other you're making assertions about driving dynamics and 'the factors that actually effect [sic] your life every day' that imply they value the wrong things.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by rmckayfleming »

eclipxe wrote: post #27
zippergz wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having driven both a 7 Series and a Model S, I'll take the BMW any day. More comfortable, better handling, looks better, doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard, and allows road trips with far less planning needed. It's nice that the tesla has insane acceleration, but in practice that's not super useful. And gas is a small enough part of my budget that it's not material so that isn't really a factor.

"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

As someone who lives in Canada, I want to be able to adjust heat, radio, etc with gloves on.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

How can you exceed your max value? This has always bothered me, its pretty much admitting "We kinda pull numbers out of our butts." When I see this in other media, like movies or games, it seems to be a direct response to hype or personal politics. Maybe CR is overly green and wants to promote EV's? Reminds me of when Obama got a Nobel Peace prize for things he will do in the future.

Also, the Simpsons did it first:

Tralawney: Listen, we've been meaning to have a talk with you about your reviews. Everything's a rave! Nine thumbs up, what the hell is that?

Homer: I've given out my share of bad reviews

Beaumont: Oh, the only bad review you gave was to a slice of pizza you found under the couch.

Homer: It lost some points because it had a Hot Wheel on it.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by johnward »

thecolorblue wrote: post #2

Did consumer reports review a Model S 70D? I would think that would be a more practical car for consumer reports to review.

Does Tesla produce stats on which trim level sells the most? My guess for the "budget conscience" people would be regular Model S 85.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by kylec »

vvanders wrote: post #19
tptacek wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just an aside that raw 0-60 time is probably not the kind of driving performance you're buying a BMW for.

Which is why I'll take the Tesla every single time.

The P85D is, no question, stupendously fast 0-60. But is that really all you care about when driving a car? I recently was shopping for a performance car and the Tesla was never even a consideration because of all the other limitations (range, charging availability, etc). As something to show off with, the Tesla wows and amazes people. As a car to drive on a daily basis, I think it is too compromised.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by JoblessWonder »

loceng wrote: post #12
3327 wrote: post #6

what a bullshit report. I mean I like tesla but this report starts with bullshit and ends with bullshit. 103/100 ? 200 mile range?

In highschool, grade 11 computer science I got 101% end of year grade; the average of the class was 100%: the person who got 99% was barely in class however completed their assignments, and I got 101% because I would quickly finish my assignments and then was happy and excited to help others if they were running into trouble. I quite wish my other classes were scored that way as well... TL;DR There's nothing wrong gi…

I think he was just saying that it seems hard to justify anything with a 200 mile range and no access to traditional fueling stations going "over and above" 100%.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by adam12 »

dmix wrote: post #33

This is offtopic but the video of peoples reaction using the 'insane' button in the Model S P85D was some really great marketing for Tesla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpaLgF1uLB8 The feature is a novelty but it makes for great social media bait. I never share links about cars with family/friends but I felt compelled to this time. It's entertaining because the car is completely silent while it pins them back in t…

> great marketing for Tesla

Yeah, until someone dies from this sort of reckless driving.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by mikeash »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #43

How can you exceed your max value? This has always bothered me, its pretty much admitting "We kinda pull numbers out of our butts." When I see this in other media, like movies or games, it seems to be a direct response to hype or personal politics. Maybe CR is overly green and wants to promote EV's? Reminds me of when Obama got a Nobel Peace prize for things he will do in the future. Also, the Simpsons did it first:…

I think people are making too big of a deal about scoring greater than the "maximum."

It's pretty clear that they came up with some arbitrary scoring system where each aspect of the car gets some number of points. There's nothing wrong with that, any rating is going to be arbitrary to some degree. They then arranged the scales such that whatever they saw as a good car would come close to 100, because 100 seems like a nice number.

Then they test a car with a combination of attributes they never expected, and it exceeds 100. 100 isn't the actual maximum, it's just what they thought would be the top score from their system. Turns out that if you throw a car at their system that is extremely efficient and powerful and seats lots of people, the numbers go higher.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by ohitsdom »

dmix wrote: post #33

This is offtopic but the video of peoples reaction using the 'insane' button in the Model S P85D was some really great marketing for Tesla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpaLgF1uLB8 The feature is a novelty but it makes for great social media bait. I never share links about cars with family/friends but I felt compelled to this time. It's entertaining because the car is completely silent while it pins them back in t…

That's legit fun just to watch.

Re: Tesla’s Model S P85D Scores 103 Out of 100 on Consumer Reports’ Ratings System

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Post by mikeash »

rmckayfleming wrote: post #42
eclipxe wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"doesn't have a huge iPad in the dashboard" Why is this a bad thing?

As someone who lives in Canada, I want to be able to adjust heat, radio, etc with gloves on.

You can adjust heat from the steering wheel. You can adjust radio a little bit, but not nearly as much as you should be able to. Not sure what "etc." refers to, but most of what you need while driving is on the steering wheel.

You can also preheat the car before you go, which helps a lot in the winter. And if you're in Canada you should definitely get the cold weather package, which includes a heated steering wheel, so gloves aren't as necessary.

Disclaimer: I've lived in cold climates (Wisconsin gets pretty brutal) but haven't had my Model S in a bad winter.

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