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Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by JadeNB »

gcb0 wrote: post #50
w0000t wrote: post #32

In my opinion, if those privacy issues bother you, the first step should be an overview of non-Microsoft operating systems.

and the alternatives are? osX invented all this. MS is just catching up. and apple don't even allow you to disable things. android? chrome alone sends more info than whole windows 10+edge. now, you could say Linux. but sadly your grand mother has no publicly available product she can buy with that OS.

> osX invented all this. MS is just catching up. and apple don't even allow you to disable things.

I was pretty sure that I had disabled all my Mac's and iPad's "phone home" behaviours. (Of course, technically, iPad and iPhone are iOS, not OS X.) There are certainly a lot of dials to twiddle, but I thought that I'd hit them all and had found a reasonable amount of privacy (at considerable expense of functionality). What are the non-disable-able features?

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by gpvos »

McGlockenshire wrote: post #92
ksk wrote: post #61

I think Microsoft messed up the messaging and wording of their features, bigtime. Many products these days are integrating analytics to see how their users use their products. Personally, I prefer to disable such tracking, but I don't view it as malicious. MS should have realized by now that people don't quite trust them with this stuff, and they should have make it clear at the outset that they are never going to us…

> They used legal language that allows them much more latitude than what they require. It's the same trap that people fall in to when site terms of use ask for worldwide, royalty-free, irrevocable license to content that you post. Yeah, that sounds like it's a horrible nastyness, but from a legal point of view that wording is a safety net for the company, not an attempt to claim actual rights over contributed content…

If people aren't rioting, the companies will never get the message.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by reddit_clone »

thescrewdriver wrote: post #26
karn09 wrote: post #7

I wish the steps were this straightforward for my android phone.

The ironic part is that people have just become accustomed to (or ignorant of) the way data is gathered from your average Android phone. Everyone is upset about Win10, but little attention is given to Android and the associated ecosystem of apps.

Not quite. I do expect more respect for my privacy from my computer OS than I expect from my smart phone OS. My personal computer holds way more sensitive and important information than my smartphone.

Re: Fix Windows 10

#164

Post by rcarmo »

Two things that irked me: - child accounts need to have an e-mail address to be manageable under Familiy Safety (which in turn requires you to go to a web site instead of setting time limits locally) - to complain about a mis-feature (like the above) you are directed to use the Windows Feedback app, which in turn will only work if you set diagnostics to on.

Re: Fix Windows 10

#165

Post by dingaling »

wldcordeiro wrote: post #157
drdaeman wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft? By opt-in approach and full transparency on what data's sent. Seriously, ask me "hey, can you help us?", provide an option to let me see what data exactly was, being and will be sent (NOT some multi-page legalese with notice that everythi…

You often hear the phrase "It's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission" especially hear on Hacker News and around start-ups. Microsoft is taking the same approach. I agree that opt-in and full transparency would be the best in an ideal world. But the reality is that people don't care enough and most people wouldn't opt-in willingly or wouldn't realize what they could opt-in to.

> "It's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission"

Which works perhaps twice in the corporate world before you're thrown out on the street.

In the realm of public opinion sometimes even once is enough to wreck a brand.

For the first time ever I have non-tech colleagues asking me about Linux.

Re: Fix Windows 10

#166

Post by cholantesh »

stan_rogers wrote: post #155
Retr0spectrum wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://i.stack.imgur.com/3vP2z.png

"[X] could care less" is idiomatic English, not a mistake. It may have been an identifiable Yiddishism at one time, but it's a naturalized citizen at this point, and has been for decades. If you are looking for a living language in natural, everyday use to conform to some sort of formal logic, you have a lifetime of disappointment ahead of you.

Idiomatic _American_ English, perhaps, but even otherwise, it's still a grammatical error. Just one that's become ubiquitous to the point that speakers in one place don't care or don't notice.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by dragonwriter »

wldcordeiro wrote: post #157
drdaeman wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft? By opt-in approach and full transparency on what data's sent. Seriously, ask me "hey, can you help us?", provide an option to let me see what data exactly was, being and will be sent (NOT some multi-page legalese with notice that everythi…

You often hear the phrase "It's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission" especially hear on Hacker News and around start-ups. Microsoft is taking the same approach. I agree that opt-in and full transparency would be the best in an ideal world. But the reality is that people don't care enough and most people wouldn't opt-in willingly or wouldn't realize what they could opt-in to.

> You often hear the phrase "It's better to ask for forgiveness than to ask for permission"

The more common phrase is easier rather than better. (Which is why the initialism form is EAFP rather than BAFP.)

And it is easier. Also, however, more prone to adverse consequences when the answer to what you ask is "no".

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by dragonwriter »

cholantesh wrote: post #166
stan_rogers wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"[X] could care less" is idiomatic English, not a mistake. It may have been an identifiable Yiddishism at one time, but it's a naturalized citizen at this point, and has been for decades. If you are looking for a living language in natural, everyday use to conform to some sort of formal logic, you have a lifetime of disappointment ahead of you.

Idiomatic _American_ English, perhaps, but even otherwise, it's still a grammatical error. Just one that's become ubiquitous to the point that speakers in one place don't care or don't notice.

> Idiomatic _American_ English, perhaps, but even otherwise, it's still a grammatical error.

Its not a grammatical error (grammatically, its basically identical to the "could not" form, since "could" and "could not" are usable in the exact same grammatical positions.) There is a semantic mismatch between the individual terms taken in isolation and the idiomatic meaning of the phrase, but this is not uncommon in idiomatic phrases (one can view it as something like "[x] could (in theory, though it is unlikely in practice) care less.")

Re: Fix Windows 10

#169

Post by Eiriksmal »

w0000t wrote: post #144
QuantumRoar wrote: post #70

From what I can see, this blog post has approximately the same length as the beginners' guide for installing Arch Linux [1]. What a user experience... [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners'_guide

Apples, oranges... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/FAQ#Why_would_I_want_to...

> "you believe an operating system should configure itself, run out of the box, and include a complete default set of software and desktop environment on the installation media."

Can't get more orange than Arch, for the sake of that comparison!

Re: Fix Windows 10

#170

Post by JustSomeNobody »

stan_rogers wrote: post #155
Retr0spectrum wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://i.stack.imgur.com/3vP2z.png

"[X] could care less" is idiomatic English, not a mistake. It may have been an identifiable Yiddishism at one time, but it's a naturalized citizen at this point, and has been for decades. If you are looking for a living language in natural, everyday use to conform to some sort of formal logic, you have a lifetime of disappointment ahead of you.

Do you have a citation for this? I have always heard people get corrected for saying "... could care less."
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