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Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by frik »

ksk wrote: post #61

I think Microsoft messed up the messaging and wording of their features, bigtime. Many products these days are integrating analytics to see how their users use their products. Personally, I prefer to disable such tracking, but I don't view it as malicious. MS should have realized by now that people don't quite trust them with this stuff, and they should have make it clear at the outset that they are never going to us…

It's a PR disaster for Microsoft, they tried hard to give little specific information and their paid commenters made it worse.

It's time to change for the Microsoft CEO, better release an early 10.1 than burn the Windows brand for generations.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by mhurron »

slg wrote: post #80
mhurron wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> like sharing of Windows updates with other computers to speed up downloads American internet speeds suck enough without Microsoft grabbing some for itself. > Windows Defender They seemed to be able to improve their services before. In fact, I think that's what a Security Researchers job is. MS has several of them. > handwriting and voice recognition Neither of which apply to my desktop, so why do I have to give the…

>American internet speeds suck enough without Microsoft grabbing some for itself. Which is why you should only have to download updates once for your entire network and not per device and why you shouldn't waste bandwidth on failed partial updates. This feature fixes both of these issues. >They seemed to be able to improve their services before. In fact, I think that's what a Security Researchers job is. MS has sever…

> Which is why you should only have to download updates once for your entire network and not per device and why you shouldn't waste bandwidth on failed partial updates. This feature fixes both of these issues.

There is ONE Windows machine on my network, so there are no other Windows machines to share updates with. There are a tonne on the internet though, I don't care about sharing with them.

> My job would be a lot harder

It's too bad it was impossible to do before Microsoft was spying on its users. Oh wait, it wasn't.

> If you don't use voice or ink, why are you worried about sharing your voice and ink data with Microsoft?

I don't want to send anything to Microsoft.

> Because most of these features would have never been turned on by the user.

There is a reason for that, people don't want it.

> What good is a security setting ...

These are not security settings. The security comes from turning them off.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by hfpn »

Someone1234 wrote: post #114
zxcvcxz wrote: post #99

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>will want useful features like Cortana, predictive search, page compatibility modes, allowing websites/apps to ask for her location (e.g. Google Maps), and her files to be backed up when her computer fails. Have you ever had a grandma? My grandma literally plays solitaire and checks her email, that's it. She wants nothing to do with cortana. I set my grandma up with Ubuntu and set the homepage of firefox to her emai…

My grandma also mostly plays games and checks her email/Facebook, but she also occasionally has to search the web and has used Siri on her iPad, I don't think Cortana would be that big of a stretch to get her into (e.g. I've seen her use Siri semi-regularly to check the local weather). To be frank, she would likely be better off with a Chromebook. But unfortunately she has a few games she plays which are Windows bina…

The problem with Cortona and Siri is that they process everything on remote servers while it could easily be done on a local machine. They do this to be able to save all that data (and take away your privacy).

Apple saves Siri's audio for 2 years for example... not sure what Microsoft's policy is on this...

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by mhurron »

cremno wrote: post #84
mhurron wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> like sharing of Windows updates with other computers to speed up downloads American internet speeds suck enough without Microsoft grabbing some for itself. > Windows Defender They seemed to be able to improve their services before. In fact, I think that's what a Security Researchers job is. MS has several of them. > handwriting and voice recognition Neither of which apply to my desktop, so why do I have to give the…

>They seemed to be able to improve their services before. Before what? These are no new features.

Yes, they are not new features, so how did they improve them before they spied on everything your system does?

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by drdaeman »

slg wrote: post #31

I can't help but feel like some of this is fear mongering. There are some good features in there that are being disabled for the sake of "privacy" like sharing of Windows updates with other computers to speed up downloads. And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft?

> And how do we expect things like Windows Defender or Microsoft's handwriting and voice recognition to improve if we refuse to share back any anonymized information with Microsoft?

By opt-in approach and full transparency on what data's sent.

Seriously, ask me "hey, can you help us?", provide an option to let me see what data exactly was, being and will be sent (NOT some multi-page legalese with notice that everything in there could change at company's discretion) - and unless you're sending something I really don't want to share (like actual raw texts I typed instead of processed statistical data), you're very likely to have my help. And, given the current situation, even praise the approach and suggest other to help the noble intent.

There's a giant difference between this and a pre-installed black box that sends some data which contents I don't even know.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

mtgx wrote: post #63
Navarr wrote: post #44

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Of course not, you're turning off most of the features of the Operating System. Normal people don't want to disable their OS.

"Features" that never existed on previous Windows versions anyway, so they could care less.

Progress must be stopped.

/s

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by amlgsmsn »

zxcvcxz wrote: post #108
amlgsmsn wrote: post #85

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I hope they start with Android and Google Maps on iOS where Google tracks which stores you visit when you have your phone with you. http://9to5google.com/2013/11/11/google-tracking-your-store-... If you disable it, Google Now stops working. Or with Chromebooks, where everything is forced to be stored in Google's cloud with very paltry storage like 32GB and 64GB even in high end Pixels. I somehow don't see the outrage…

I'm not a big fan of google or Apple and I don't think the fact that other big companies rape your privacy justifies Microsoft raping your privacy. The NSA is making sure no one gets too outraged. You're allowed to get a little upset about windows, seeing as no matter how mad people get, Windows will still be a huge part of tech infrastructure --it won't go away--, and it also placates the masses, it makes them feel…

>I'm not a big fan of google or Apple and I don't think the fact that other big companies rape your privacy justifies Microsoft raping your privacy.

I agree with you. I just find it curious why tech forums like this one and others appear to go gung-ho whenever something negative is mentioned about MS/Windows but same or worse privacy violations by other companies in software that is very widely used don't seem to trigger the same reaction.

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by rufugee »

gcb0 wrote: post #50
w0000t wrote: post #32

In my opinion, if those privacy issues bother you, the first step should be an overview of non-Microsoft operating systems.

and the alternatives are? osX invented all this. MS is just catching up. and apple don't even allow you to disable things. android? chrome alone sends more info than whole windows 10+edge. now, you could say Linux. but sadly your grand mother has no publicly available product she can buy with that OS.

Can you expound upon your OS X comment?

Re: Fix Windows 10

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Post by imauld »

frik wrote: post #110
w0000t wrote: post #32

In my opinion, if those privacy issues bother you, the first step should be an overview of non-Microsoft operating systems.

Have a look at ReactOS, a free open source OS that is binary compatible to Windows (its what Linux is to Unix). http://www.reactos.org

The only reason I keep Windows at all is for gaming. Would games meant for Windows be able to run on this OS?
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