It seems that Microsoft was right when calling Windows 10 "The Last Windows" - after such insolent violation of privacy people will switch to Linux or Mac OS just to avoid it. Microsoft is doomed, let's celebrate! :)
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#232Parents spying on their children's communications seems hard to reconcile with the principles in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child[1] which most countries are signatories to, in particular articles 13 and 16:
"Recognizing that the United Nations has, in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and in the International Covenants on Human Rights, proclaimed and agreed that everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth therein, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status,
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"The child shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of the child's choice.
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"No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation.
"The child has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks."
Given that Microsoft is a US company and the US is one of very few countries that hasn't ratified the convention[2], the concept of children having human rights might seem strange and foreign to them, but almost everywhere else, the state is (it seems to me) obligated to protect children from this kind of intrusion. (Maybe the EU could look into forcing them to release a special spyware-free edition...)
[1] http://www.ohchr.org/EN/ProfessionalInterest/Pages/CRC.aspx [2] http://www.unicef.org/crc/index_30225.html
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#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Shit, that may just have changed my opinion on this. Is the first one really correct? Anything we type on a PC anywhere? So if I open up tor and load a site it's basically useless because any url I type in tor will go to ms anyways? WTF? Each and every one of those is completely unacceptable. Anyone know about any good unix distros that wont be too much of a culture shock to someone who has used windows his entire li…
KDE is the closest to windows. Start with Chakra[1] or KaOS [2] if you want it to "just work" (both are Arch-based). If you want to tinker, go Manjaro KDE. If you want to have to earn back every single piece of hardware in your computer, and end up becoming a Linux superhero when you're done, install Gentoo. If you're concerned about privacy or rights, avoid Ubuntu and Redhat distros, as they have a history of exploi…
Or Kubuntu if you like to get help from then now abundant Ubuntu/Debian "how to" stuff on internet.
Also, avoid the problem of "privacity" with normal Ubuntu, as not use Canonical desktop stuff.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's since 2006 that every year is gonna be the year of linux on the desktop. Except it never happens.
I guess you haven't witnessed Corel Linux, Wordperfect for Linux or Loki Entertainment. It's been predicted way longer than 2006. Ps. Sorry for the accidental downvote :(.
Oh! Someone that remember Corel OS. I have one disc yet somewhere...
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#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, seeing that 80 MB every 15 minutes is over 35 Tb/s (at only 50 million Win 10 users [1]), and 12 Tb/s was the reigning speed record... [1] http://www.winbeta.org/news/there-are-now-over-50-million-pe...
No, that's actually 0.8 Mb/s
Yes, per person. At 50 million users, you need a 35 Tbps pipe to take in all that data.
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#236Earlier quoted context omitted.
Parent's post has so many qualifiers, it says nothing at all. I do not see a performance penalty at all with WINE. Most games that work play at speeds matching or better than windows. WoW is usually a big example of that, as are emulators.
WoW and emulators are both fairly trivial for a modern system to run well. There is definitely a significant performance hit if you are running something in WINE that nearly maxes your performance in windows
someone's never used Higan before. I've made Stunt Race FX and Yoshi's Island peg a Core i7. Running Tekken 4 on MAME is just as intensive.
Running either in wine is a fine benchmark on performance.
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you haven't stopped yet, this won't change anything. Edit: bury me if you want, it doesn't make what I say any less true.
I've never heard of MS key-logging everything you type and broadcasting it to their servers. If that were true, I would 100% not use windows. I only use my windows box for steam games and that's mostly for dota2 these days which has a linux client. I don't know why you would assume to know me so well.
If you are seriously claiming ignorance to everything Microsoft has done since Palladium [1], Maybe you have a leg to stand on. But you seem like a smart guy, who has probably seen all the controversies (even if just with the Xbox One), so I think my original statement stands.
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next-Generation_Secure_Computi...
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#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
Was about to ask for an alternate source too. Last time this was posted, people pointed out this website was not reliable at all. A nice analysis by a well-known security researcher should exist to confirm that.
Here's a nice analysis by a well-known security researcher in response to that article. He could not confirm the results. https://systemoverlord.com/blog/2015/08/16/so-is-windows-10-...
This "nice analysis" smells like apologist on duty to me:
The only dubious behavior I observed was sending
every keystroke in the Windows Start Menu to the
servers, but I understand that combined Computer
/Web search is being sold as a feature, and this
is necessary for that feature.
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#239People who use their google accounts and Chrome ubiquitously already get spied on by GA at a much bigger scale through all the sites they visit in their browser. Why is it a big uproar when it happens at the OS level? Seems like it's pretty much the same thing. We always have the option of using Linux if we don't like it.
Because we use our computers for different things, not only browsing the web.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
Here's a nice analysis by a well-known security researcher in response to that article. He could not confirm the results. https://systemoverlord.com/blog/2015/08/16/so-is-windows-10-...
This "nice analysis" smells like apologist on duty to me: The only dubious behavior I observed was sending every keystroke in the Windows Start Menu to the servers, but I understand that combined Computer /Web search is being sold as a feature, and this is necessary for that feature. Calling it "feature" is insulting. It's a key-logger!
You can call it a key logger, and I understand why you would object, but sending search terms typed into a search box to a search engine is pretty much what people expect. Ubuntu does it. GNOME does it. Android does it. iOS does it. OS X does it. Windows is very nearly the last one to do it.
Privacy is important, and I don't think either I or David Tomaschik would ever argue otherwise, and there should definitely be an opt-out, but I think there are more serious problems with Windows that would be more worth objecting to than searching the Web from a search box.