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Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by IkmoIkmo »

kstrauser wrote: post #80

I submitted a story to Boing Boing (at http://boingboing.net/2015/08/10/windows-10.html ) about the weird experience I had after upgrading my son's laptop from Windows 8.1 to 10. We did this on a Saturday, and Monday morning I had a "family safety report" email from Microsoft detailing which websites he'd visited, which apps he'd used (and for how long), etc. since the upgrade . According to Microsoft's Family Safety…

Wow that's insane! And I'm glad you're an awesome parent. You should post a anonymised screenshot of that email sometime if you can, this is pretty ridiculous.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by throwaway77632 »

No wonder they intend to no longer describe what's in an update... Only using Windows in a VM still. Just set the network connection host-only. Didn't really need internet there anyway, and given these circumstances, I might as well get rid of it completely. I guess any inclination I had to think Microsoft is on the way up just vanished again. Too bad it also means I'm probably going to throw away my plans of diving into F#. Open source, but still too tied to this company I'd better just give up on.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

ionised wrote: post #43
rocky1138 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are over 1,900 games on Steam that run in Linux. https://steamdb.info/linux/

Many of the games I have in my library do not run at all unfortunately. Sometimes I like to go back and play old stuff too.

Many Steam games work great under WINE, both on Linux and OS X desktops!

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by keithpeter »

rileyteige wrote: post #25

If I could figure out my wireless card/GPU drivers, I'd swap to Linux in a heartbeat. Plug-n-play drivers is the only reason I'm still on that closed-source OS. Just don't have the patience to hunt down third-party drivers.

Boot off a live CD (e.g. Ubuntu) and run lspci from a terminal session then post it here.

You may find the drivers you need are available in a separate 'restricted' or 'non-free' repository. It is unusual these days on desktop/laptop oriented installs to have to 'hunt down' anything.

Very very recent hardware can still be problematic mind you.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by kardos »

inevitable2 wrote: post #90

Here is a more in-depth analysis of windows 10 and what is sent to MS http://aeronet.cz/news/analyza-windows-10-ve-svem-principu-j... For those who don't speak Czech: -It sends all text you type anywhere (not just into search) every 30 minutes to MS. If you type about a holiday to your blog, next day you'll see holiday ads. -Every 30 minutes it sends your geo-location and network information. -If you type a telephone…

Is any of this verified? During a previous posting of this it was largely dismissed as propaganda [1]. If someone has reproduced these findings that would be very interesting.

What would be even more interesting would be for someone to intercept the spying data that is being sent back so we know for sure what's being sent.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10053420

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by IkmoIkmo »

mizzao wrote: post #68

People who use their google accounts and Chrome ubiquitously already get spied on by GA at a much bigger scale through all the sites they visit in their browser. Why is it a big uproar when it happens at the OS level? Seems like it's pretty much the same thing. We always have the option of using Linux if we don't like it.

GA doesn't record all my keystrokes and voice like W10 (and now W7-8) have been accused of doing in this thread. And there was an uproar when iirc Chromium was doing something similar with voice a few months back, which was pulled later.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by Artemis2 »

kardos wrote: post #96
inevitable2 wrote: post #90

Here is a more in-depth analysis of windows 10 and what is sent to MS http://aeronet.cz/news/analyza-windows-10-ve-svem-principu-j... For those who don't speak Czech: -It sends all text you type anywhere (not just into search) every 30 minutes to MS. If you type about a holiday to your blog, next day you'll see holiday ads. -Every 30 minutes it sends your geo-location and network information. -If you type a telephone…

Is any of this verified? During a previous posting of this it was largely dismissed as propaganda [1]. If someone has reproduced these findings that would be very interesting. What would be even more interesting would be for someone to intercept the spying data that is being sent back so we know for sure what's being sent. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10053420

Was about to ask for an alternate source too. Last time this was posted, people pointed out this website was not reliable at all. A nice analysis by a well-known security researcher should exist to confirm that.

Re: Updates Make Windows 7 and 8 Spy on You Like Windows 10

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Post by nileshtrivedi »

rileyteige wrote: post #25

If I could figure out my wireless card/GPU drivers, I'd swap to Linux in a heartbeat. Plug-n-play drivers is the only reason I'm still on that closed-source OS. Just don't have the patience to hunt down third-party drivers.

Broadcom and nVidia?
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