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as a sidenote I encourage all people with talent to leave countries with suppressive regimes. I think they should be erased from their position. One way to do that is to encourage everyone to leave their country. One can argue that staying in a bad country may one day help to build it up again, but on the other hand, nothing hurts bad people in power more than complete brain drain.

And nothing hurts a whole country more than a massive brain drain

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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The US does "interfere" with the publication of some code. I'm thinking of cryptography code. Quoting from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_th... . > Since World War II, many governments, including the U.S. and its NATO allies, have regulated the export of cryptography for national security considerations, and, as late as 1992, cryptography was on the U.S. Munitions List as an Auxiliary Milit…

But in the US, you can sue the government: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernstein_v._United_States

I think you mean "at least", rather than "but"? You'll notice the WP quote I gave includes restrictions post-Bernstein (and links to that case). Even these restrictions count as 'interfer[ing] with someone's publication of code', no?

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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I am in Iran , you cannot believe it , same here , They use deep packet inspection too, they will shut every package down. every open vpn , cisco vpn , etc connection will lose connection every 2-3 min . Connection to outside web is almost impossible. I have noticed they have multiple situation, for example when everything's quiet internet is not so bad (despite the fact bandwidth is extremely low for huge amount of…

I'm not sure but I suspect that they got the technology (hardware and software) from China too. As a Chinese netizen I don't know if I should be proud that we have world-class advanced technology or be ashamed. Possibly ashamed.

Allegedly it's mostly or at least originally Cisco's technology: https://insidersurveillance.com/cisco-huawei-and-semptian-a-... .

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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Leave to where? To a country where 1. a few rich people control the entire political process by buying out politicians. 2. where there are frequent shootings and you are never safe due to some idiotic Constitutional amendment. 3. where regularly unarmed minorities are shot dead by the police and the majority jury allow them to go unpunished. 4. where there is no mandate to give workers paid leave include those with a…

No, to the country that is: 1) A leader in freedom of speech, press freedom, property rights protections, general freedom of movement, and is low on the corruption index. One of the few countries with extraordinarily well protected freedom of speech rights enshrined at the core of the nation. 2) Has a rapidly adaptive culture, able to implement changes at a fast pace despite its immense scale. That includes things li…

> 2) Has a rapidly adaptive culture, able to implement changes at a fast pace despite its immense scale. That includes things like legalizing and decriminalizing drugs, which is now underway across numerous states, and marriage equality.

The US is able to implement seemingly big changes quickly, but they're not necessarily as big as you think them to be. "Marriage equality" (a name many disagree with, by the way) is not a massive change, for example. It's a tiny change that, while providing some benefit to some gay people, does not fundamentally change power structures. In fact, it strengthens an existing one: the cultural institution of marriage.

> 11) Where the murder rate for 99% of the population in cities is closer to 2/100k (and half that in rural areas), on par nicer urban parts of Europe.

If you exclude the places where murder happens most, of course you appear to have a low murder rate.

> 12) Where unarmed minorities are not regularly shot dead by the police.

Perhaps you have not paid attention to the news. Quite literally hundreds of black people have been shot by US police this year so far. People who, if their skin was a different colour, would not have been shot.

> 13) Where minorities have a greater opportunity for success than in nearly any other nation.

This statement would be amusing were it not so terrifying. Minorities in the US, once in the poverty trap, have virtually no chance of getting out of it. Even those outside it face significant obstacles in getting anywhere.

> See: the vast wealth and prosperity of Asians in America, they're the best off of any race of people here. In fact, American Asians are among the best off of any people anywhere on this planet.

Asians in America are a relatively privileged minority. Now look at how other ethnic groups fare. Not so rosy.

> 14) Where you have more opportunities than in any other nation, to make any kind of life for yourself that you want.

If you're rich.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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post #178

as a sidenote I encourage all people with talent to leave countries with suppressive regimes. I think they should be erased from their position. One way to do that is to encourage everyone to leave their country. One can argue that staying in a bad country may one day help to build it up again, but on the other hand, nothing hurts bad people in power more than complete brain drain.

> as a sidenote I encourage all people with talent to leave countries with suppressive regimes.

All countries have oppressive regimes. Some are just moreso than others, and some target different people than others.

This is utterly destructive thinking, anyway. If the only hope, the only spark for change, flees, then there can never be improvement.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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How do multinational companies' china offices get through the firewall? For example if my company uses Google apps, how do I ensure that my china office has access?

I've heard that commercial DCs and high-end hotels are less censored.

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Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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No, to the country that is: 1) A leader in freedom of speech, press freedom, property rights protections, general freedom of movement, and is low on the corruption index. One of the few countries with extraordinarily well protected freedom of speech rights enshrined at the core of the nation. 2) Has a rapidly adaptive culture, able to implement changes at a fast pace despite its immense scale. That includes things li…

I'll be very short, at least Iran and China didn't invade Iraq and Afghanistan on false pretenses. They aren't currently droning civilians in 5 countries. If you pay taxes in America you are financially supporting their military efforts, that's how I look at it.

Iran has been murdering people through their terrorist proxies, such as Hezbollah, for decades. Their leaders can hardly stop talking about wanting to genocide the entire nation of Israel.

China invaded, annexed, and exterminated the culture of Tibet - a nation four times the size of France geographically. China is also desperate to take Taiwan - a nation that wants absolutely nothing to do with being owned by China - openly admitting they'd be willing to murder large numbers of people through war to annex it. China is building artificial islands in the South China Sea, while routinely threatening neighbors and trying to claim vast water borders that clearly don't belong to them.

China has also fought numerous wars with India and Vietnam, two of their largest neighbors. While having countless militaristic confrontations about land borders with basically all of their neighbors. That continues to this day with Japan, Vietnam, India, Philippines, Malaysia, etc.

It'd be as though the US took its military, stacked threatening pieces of it on the border with Canada, and started proclaiming ownership of large parts of their border territories.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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> I have no choice but to obey. Did he ask a lawyer? Because it looks to me there are two possibilities. One, he was not doing anything illegal in which case the police had no authority to stop his activities. Two, he was indeed doing something illegal in which case he can be glad he got out of it with what appears to be only a warning.

China is not ruled by law.

Re: “Two days ago the police came to me and wanted me to stop working on this”

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Any technology can be used for both good and bad. There's nothing inherently wrong with technology.

No, that is not true. Look at the atomic bomb for example. The technology here is not just nuclear fission – the bomb itself has a lot of unique technology. There can be a lot inherently wrong with technology, and there quite often is.

Name one technology used in a fission device that doesn't have other, non-weapon application.
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