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Re: Twitter Falls Below IPO Price as Concerns Mount Over CEO, Growth

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Post by mkr-hn »

freehunter wrote: post #89
mkr-hn wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone had an AOL keyword. AOL isn't dead, but it fell hard. Ubiquity isn't enough.

Are you saying AOL wasn't mainstream? The Internet might have been niche as a whole, but out of that, AOL was as mainstream as it got. AOL was synonymous with Internet, like Facebook and Twitter are synonymous with social media.

I said:

> Everyone had an AOL keyword. AOL isn't dead, but it fell hard. Ubiquity isn't enough.

Every business having a Twitter account won't save Twitter any better than everyone having an AOL keyword saved AOL.

Re: Twitter Falls Below IPO Price as Concerns Mount Over CEO, Growth

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Post by jtouri »

I never thought the problem was the product, rather it is the management and the community. What's valuable about hacker news is the people who are involved, and what's great about Quora are the people who give a response. It's not helpful that most people spam useless tweets constantly. It took a while, but I finally set my twitter to follow news updates perfectly.

Re: Twitter Falls Below IPO Price as Concerns Mount Over CEO, Growth

#94

Post by billiam »

mikegioia wrote: post #29

To me the problem with Twitter lies solely with what Twitter's logged-out homepage looks like. I don't know what it's trying to be but asking me to sign up, browse categories (?), and read top celebrity posts is not it. Why is logged-out Twitter not a search engine? They have up-to-the-second thoughts from their users about everything and it's the first place I go when a site is down, or some news story is breaking.…

This. Huge missed opportunity.

Re: Twitter Falls Below IPO Price as Concerns Mount Over CEO, Growth

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Post by stephengoodwin »

jtouri wrote: post #92

I never thought the problem was the product, rather it is the management and the community. What's valuable about hacker news is the people who are involved, and what's great about Quora are the people who give a response. It's not helpful that most people spam useless tweets constantly. It took a while, but I finally set my twitter to follow news updates perfectly.

> I finally set my twitter to follow news updates perfectly

Just curious: What's your setup or setup philosophy?

Re: Twitter Falls Below IPO Price as Concerns Mount Over CEO, Growth

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Post by rdl »

Twitter seems like both current-shareholders and the userbase would be best served by either acquisition by Google/Alphabet, or a takeover by either activist shareholder or private equity, with new, product-focused management.

If you focused on mobile in the right ways, you could turn Twitter into a legitimate $30-50b company.

It's amazing that FB Newsfeed has basically taken the low hanging fruit from Twitter -- "normal" people sharing life events, leaving only weird communities of people interacting in public. There has to be a way to preserve that, grow that, and get interpersonal interaction among more closely-knit communities happening.

They had such a huge opening when Facebook fucked themselves with the shitty-HTML5-only-mobile-clients. Sad.

Re: Twitter Falls Below IPO Price as Concerns Mount Over CEO, Growth

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Post by ThomPete »

Twitters main problem is that it's a protocol more than an actual content platform. What they need is to get more content onto their platform and the only way to really do that is to allow for richers posts which means loose the 140 character limit.

I know a lot of people will say "but thats what so great about twitter" and I would claim that it isn't, they just think it is. The short tweets and the asyncronous character of twitter creates quite a lot of noise and so you are actually reading way way more than interesting 140 character tweets you also read a lot of noise and redundancy.

No whats really great about twitter is that it's more centerede around interests than friendship and that this provide the actual value of using the service.

Re: Twitter Falls Below IPO Price as Concerns Mount Over CEO, Growth

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Post by capkutay »

Snapchat's "Stories" page is the UI Twitter should have built...It has search, a list of your friends updates, and targeted content from a few big name media vendors. Logging into twitter just takes you to a big list of crappy, uninteresting content IMO.

Re: Twitter Falls Below IPO Price as Concerns Mount Over CEO, Growth

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Post by meerita »

I have never installed Snapchat. I don't know if it is good or bad. All my friends doesn't have Snapchat, but everyone has Twitter. I found Twitter a better place, and it's ageless to me compared to all those new-UI paradigms that come each year. The problem of Twitter is they cut off all the innovation of 3rd party software developers to keep their shitty in house software.

Re: Twitter Falls Below IPO Price as Concerns Mount Over CEO, Growth

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Post by [deleted] »

stephengoodwin wrote: post #95
jtouri wrote: post #92

I never thought the problem was the product, rather it is the management and the community. What's valuable about hacker news is the people who are involved, and what's great about Quora are the people who give a response. It's not helpful that most people spam useless tweets constantly. It took a while, but I finally set my twitter to follow news updates perfectly.

> I finally set my twitter to follow news updates perfectly Just curious: What's your setup or setup philosophy?

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