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Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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God, I hope this is sarcasm. EDIT: Fresh commas installed.

God I hope, this is sarcasm. God, I hope this is sarcasm. Commas are so undervalued...

From context, it's obvious where comma is placed. Context is (sadly) so undervalued these days.

In my defense: A) Not native B) Written in a hurry.

Anyway to assuage your fears of grammatically imperfect sentences, I've installed fresh commas. Enjoy.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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post #25

>With warehouses around the globe, my husband would get paged to fix problems in China in the middle of the night, in the UK in the wee hours of the morning, and then in the Kentucky warehouse during work hours. I worked at a company that wrote warehouse management software, and this definitely isn't unique to Amazon. When your software has a serious problem the company is losing a million dollars an hour, so they're…

I dunno. I've worked in games and I've worked in another role where I was on-call.

I think the kind of stress is apples and oranges.

Games is definitely more work overall, but it's generally within office hours, and you can still get a decent sleep even at crunch time if you're sensible and don't work for the worst abusers of unpaid overtime.

On-call can really fuck you up even if the actual hours worked are less.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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I have a four-week rotation on-call where I work. Pretty much the same workload as discussed in the article with it. Calls and text messages at 3am, can't be more than 15 minutes away from an internet connection (remote desktop software on Android is a godsend.) While it doesn't feel unbearable, and pays fairly well (at least for the area I'm in), it definitely has completely destroyed my sleep schedule. I no longer…

You CAN quit. We are in an industry where you have to dodge recruiters trying to tackle you on your way to get coffee if you have any technical skill. Recruiters that represent companies capable of paying your mortgage and some probably well needed vacations.

Personally I have folded companies, quit jobs, and turned away opprotunities that represented substantially more than I make now. People have called these choices foolish but my life honestly rocks right now. Today I am happy, productive at a job I enjoy, and have time to spend with the people that matter, so who cares what other people consider logical?

Optimize for work-life balance, not bank account balance.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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post #17

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Us as employees we need to learn when to say stop There's a word for this, beginning with "U", that a lot of people don't like.

And (in the UK at least) the demise of unions has seen the earnings ratio of company bosses to employees rise to levels not seen since the 19th or early 20th century

That's happening across the world at the moment isn't it? Doesn't seem to be linked to the demise of unions.

Admittedly, there needs to be a new version of unions, the next evolution. We need the next Marx to bring the pendulum back.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

#76

Looking at this story (the wider Amazon story) it seems to me a lot of the value is getting extracted from employees in a sort of creeping way. So you might go to an interview where the manager says there's pager duty now and again, but it's not too intense. You get on the job, and it's a whole lot more intense than expected. You can't leave because you've just turned down a bunch of other offers and moved towns. You…

Well - you deliver 40 for the week and be gone. Not that hard. At 1800 you leave office. There is nothing your boss can tell you.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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Somewhat off topic perhaps, but what exactly does therapy do? Has anyone here had therapy? If so, can they explain how talking to a psychologist cures a medical condition? Is it significantly different from talking to a priest or a faith healer?

It's science: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_psychology

So yes, it's significantly different from talking to your mom, friend, priest etc.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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I see people use this excuse all the time when I challenge them to quit a job they hate and get one they love. If you are good at what you do, another company will buy you out of any financial strings a current employer has on you. Let's assume the worst though and that by leaving you just eat the money. So what? You can always make more money, but you can't get years of your life back. I find people in this industry…

by leaving you just eat the money This requires that you have a good line of credit or savings that you can use to buy food, pay mortgage, etc. Most people don't have that.

So? You dont have to pay them back immediatly. I have walked away with neither credit or savings before. Thrown away stock and titles. There is never a good reason to let someone abuse you and hold you hostage from living a life you enjoy.

I swear this is like listening to people in abusive relationships with tunnel vision. "If we break up I will be poor!"

The world didn't end any of the times I have walked away. Little contract work and a few interviews can solve a wealth of financial problems in short order.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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I'm quite surprised that of all the famous Silicon Valley people, and their rallying behind Jeff Bezos, no one seems to believe that some part of these many many stories could be true. Either that, or they seem to think that only incompetent people are complaining. Therefore I must post part of my comment I posted here [1]. One of my good friend, who was suffering at Amazon, is thriving at Google. He's done amazingly…

> I'm quite surprised that of all the famous Silicon Valley people, and their rallying behind Jeff Bezos, no one seems to believe that some part of these many many stories could be true.

I'm sure they know it's true, it's just that they're all guilty of it. From what I keep hearing, it sounds like it's part of the culture.

Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon

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post #31

The email from Jeff to his employees was impeccably unsatisfactory. It was a sheer display of ignorance and rejection towards everything quoted and said. However, no matter how much Jeff sticks to that attitude, it wouldn't change the reality that Amazon is the most customer centric company on earth and the most employee apathetic company on earth as well. It reflects in major workplace elements like health schemes,…

I love how Bezos didn't address the reports of his own famously bad behavior, which sets the tone for the entire company. Or maybe he's under investigation by the Amazon HR department right now?
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