Because of the annoying wife he has.
My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
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Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
#42On call once every three weeks? Oh fucking noes! Out of hours support sucks, but yes, the reality is that you get paged, and you have to deal with things within SLA. It's hard, it's wearing, but one week out of every four is hardly intense. I was on call for five years. It nearly broke me - but this article is just whining . Why take such a role if it's such a problem? It sounds more like his wife bashing him every t…
It depends how often you get the pager, no?
If your calls were often at 4am and you had to work a normal schedule, it certainly does no good. Also, you are saying that nearly broke you, as if it's a badge of pride or something good...
Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
#43There's so many thing I feel when i read this: 1st: We're all in IT have been on call at some given time , and it sucks , we all know this (since I'm not on my 20s anymore i always ask in job interviews if i have to be on call.) 2nd: Man that sucks ... i don't know how this person has given it more than 6 months of his life , just move on and get a different job if you dislike it. 3rd: Amazon is like any other big co…
> just move on and get a different job if you dislike it Because they tie you in with money - your signing bonus and relocation expenses have to be partially repaid if you leave within the first two years. An interesting question on the "what if there was a war and no-one came?" is what would happen if Amazon could no longer hire the monstrous number of high calibre new entrants it needs every year. Stories like this…
I see people use this excuse all the time when I challenge them to quit a job they hate and get one they love.
If you are good at what you do, another company will buy you out of any financial strings a current employer has on you.
Let's assume the worst though and that by leaving you just eat the money. So what? You can always make more money, but you can't get years of your life back.
I find people in this industry are so often socalized into protecting a commodity they can easily replace (money) by giving up one they can't (enjoyed time)
Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
#44Somewhat off topic perhaps, but what exactly does therapy do? Has anyone here had therapy? If so, can they explain how talking to a psychologist cures a medical condition? Is it significantly different from talking to a priest or a faith healer?
Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
> just move on and get a different job if you dislike it Because they tie you in with money - your signing bonus and relocation expenses have to be partially repaid if you leave within the first two years. An interesting question on the "what if there was a war and no-one came?" is what would happen if Amazon could no longer hire the monstrous number of high calibre new entrants it needs every year. Stories like this…
I see people use this excuse all the time when I challenge them to quit a job they hate and get one they love. If you are good at what you do, another company will buy you out of any financial strings a current employer has on you. Let's assume the worst though and that by leaving you just eat the money. So what? You can always make more money, but you can't get years of your life back. I find people in this industry…
by leaving you just eat the money
This requires that you have a good line of credit or savings that you can use to buy food, pay mortgage, etc. Most people don't have that.
Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
#47I have a four-week rotation on-call where I work. Pretty much the same workload as discussed in the article with it. Calls and text messages at 3am, can't be more than 15 minutes away from an internet connection (remote desktop software on Android is a godsend.) While it doesn't feel unbearable, and pays fairly well (at least for the area I'm in), it definitely has completely destroyed my sleep schedule. I no longer…
> It would be so much more humane to just have two people on-call each week, each covering a 12-hour window, with 8-hours overlapped by their own work schedules.
Just another reason why opening an office in Europe is great for a company at some stage of its growth.
Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
#48>With warehouses around the globe, my husband would get paged to fix problems in China in the middle of the night, in the UK in the wee hours of the morning, and then in the Kentucky warehouse during work hours. I worked at a company that wrote warehouse management software, and this definitely isn't unique to Amazon. When your software has a serious problem the company is losing a million dollars an hour, so they're…
A million bucks an hour and there's a manager and two devs on it? If they had three devs it would cut the workload by a third for the existing devs. And it would cost 150K-200K or so (salary, benefits, tax), equivalent to 12 minutes of waiting time. Surely a guy with an MBA can figure out the cost/benefit of such a situation?
The MBA thinks "cheap as possible" - so two devs and a dog sounds like a reasonable budget, even if it means stuff doesn't quite work and employees get broken.
The real poison is MBA culture. It's literally insane in most normal human senses.
Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
#49Looking at this story (the wider Amazon story) it seems to me a lot of the value is getting extracted from employees in a sort of creeping way. So you might go to an interview where the manager says there's pager duty now and again, but it's not too intense. You get on the job, and it's a whole lot more intense than expected. You can't leave because you've just turned down a bunch of other offers and moved towns. You…
I always wonder whether the stock of Amazon should decrease after the HR-gate. I would expect the company to eventually start an HR policy and lose money on that. It seems the stock price didn't move, but I'm not a finance expert and there must be other events this month.https://www.google.fr/search?q=amzn&oq=amzn&aqs=chrome..69i5...
Re: My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
#50I am now quite happy that I failed in the Amazon recruitment process.
Their guidance said that I should prepare couple of weeks for the interview. For me they gave one weekend which I had to use for the family event. Perhaps I was not engaged enough after all.