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The on-call scenario they describe in the article is pretty bad.
My husband needed therapy after working for Amazon
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hop on the Amazon hate.
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I seriously doubt it feels like a cheap anecdote to the family involved. In fact it sounds like real pain.
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#15I do believe there must be something wrong at a significant enough scale to warrant NYT's attention. There are always outliners (i.e. unhappy and stressed out staff) in every company, the question is how big is the population.
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#16At Amazon, unless you're on a PIP (probation), you can change teams after a year and your manager cannot stop you. This is possibly one of the best ways to get management's attention. If an org is bleeding out people, it is clear that something is wrong. Why not switch teams?
>you can change teams after a year and your manager cannot stop you.
i remember how at Sun a good recommendation from a manager about his employee wanting to switch to another team was read as "i'd be happy to dump that guy to somebody else" and so-so was read as "God, don't let him to be taken from me" :)
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#17Looking at this story (the wider Amazon story) it seems to me a lot of the value is getting extracted from employees in a sort of creeping way. So you might go to an interview where the manager says there's pager duty now and again, but it's not too intense. You get on the job, and it's a whole lot more intense than expected. You can't leave because you've just turned down a bunch of other offers and moved towns. You…
I completely agree , also , Us as employees we need to learn when to say stop , i know we all work hard and we want to be the an important asset. But remember going the extra mile and getting recognition for it will only last until the next downtime/problem which could be tomorrow.
Us as employees we need to learn when to say stop
There's a word for this, beginning with "U", that a lot of people don't like.
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#18Why. Why oh why didn't he quit? This sounds AWFUL.
Honestly, I ask myself this all the time when I read horror stories from employees at tech companies. Just leave!
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#19Looking at this story (the wider Amazon story) it seems to me a lot of the value is getting extracted from employees in a sort of creeping way. So you might go to an interview where the manager says there's pager duty now and again, but it's not too intense. You get on the job, and it's a whole lot more intense than expected. You can't leave because you've just turned down a bunch of other offers and moved towns. You…
I completely agree , also , Us as employees we need to learn when to say stop , i know we all work hard and we want to be the an important asset. But remember going the extra mile and getting recognition for it will only last until the next downtime/problem which could be tomorrow.
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I completely agree , also , Us as employees we need to learn when to say stop , i know we all work hard and we want to be the an important asset. But remember going the extra mile and getting recognition for it will only last until the next downtime/problem which could be tomorrow.
Us as employees we need to learn when to say stop There's a word for this, beginning with "U", that a lot of people don't like.
i know , i hate Unicorns too!