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Re: OnHub

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Post by azernik »

Spooky23 wrote: post #188
andrewla wrote: post #184

From [1] Get started Welcome! To set up your OnHub, you’ll also need: Google account Android or iOS device Broadband connection Google account? That seems like an unnecessary requirement for a router. [1] https://on.google.com/hub/support/#get-started

Sounds a lot like the Meraki model. Makes sense... I'm sure one of the top consumer issues is losing router credentials.

Yup - my first thought too.

I used to work there, and one eternal subject of lunch-table conversation was how interesting it would be to make consumer routers with the same ease of management... but how the consumer market is such a hellhole to work in because margins are so low and consumers are more sensitive to price than to management complexity in their purchasing decisions.

A good brand like Google's can get around that, though.

Re: OnHub

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Post by dublinben »

Someone1234 wrote: post #276
datasage wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was in the same situation as you. Same Router too. I could actually get close to 1 Gbps with the stock firmware. But it was unstable, requiring a reset every other day. I used an open source firmware, but it didn't contain the NAT offload module, so I would not be able to get over 200-250 Mbps. (This was is all wired, not wireless). Since I had a wifi access point, I ended up switching to an Ubiquity Edgemax router…

Here's the thing about TP-Link: They're a "good enough" manufactur. Meaning if you care about something, don't buy a TP-Link, but if you don't care that much and just need it to basically work "good enough" (e.g. WiFi for your mom's house) then they're fine. I got a cheap TP-Link repeater. It works fine, nothing special, no bells or whistles. But for the price it was a good buy.

TP-Link are hardly a manufacturer of "good enough" products. Their $100 Archer C7 router is the top recommendation on TheWirecutter for over a year.[0] Their $75 Archer C5 is also the top rated AC1200 router in every single category on SmallNetBuilder.[1] It beats out more expensive models from all the bigger name manufacturers.

[0] http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-wi-fi-router/

[1] http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/tools/rankers/router/result/1...

Re: OnHub

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Post by melvinram »

fweespeech wrote: post #273
melvinram wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Trust me. I don't trust people who say "Trust me." :)

I'm sure. No one ever believes me until I've been paid to fix it. I'm used to it.

My point: you're a random stranger saying to another random stranger "trust me" without justifying your request to trust you. Why should I trust you?

Your reply: After I've convinced them that I know enough to fix the problem (by either demonstrating my expertise/qualifications/experience or getting someone else to vouch for me), they believe me.

Well duh! If you demonstrate why they should trust you, they'll trust you. They won't just randomly pay you money to fix shit if they don't trust you.

Re: OnHub

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Post by dysoco »

keehun wrote: post #353
astrocyte wrote: post #321

My biggest issue with this is that Google wants to inject a piece of hardware into my home that acts as the gateway to my data. A device through which all : > Incoming data runs through > Internal data runs through > Outgoing data runs through And then wants to be vague about what data they will be pumping to their back-end for analytics/data mining. I have had a long standing proposal for home automation and I'm cur…

This is exactly why I found the Google branding a bit weird. The smart guys over there surely must know that a lot of us would be suspicious of this device. Why didn't they brand it under Nest, or a new Google subsidiary that would take the initial suspicion-edge off? I think it's a good router at a decent price, but no way I'm putting that inside my house!

I'm going to make a guess and say that this is going to sell just because it's Google branded.

Re: OnHub

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Post by stephengoodwin »

endtime wrote: post #215
andrewla wrote: post #184

From [1] Get started Welcome! To set up your OnHub, you’ll also need: Google account Android or iOS device Broadband connection Google account? That seems like an unnecessary requirement for a router. [1] https://on.google.com/hub/support/#get-started

(Disclaimer: I work for the same former-division-of-Google-and-now-Alphabet-subsidiary that built this, though I don't work on OnHub.) I think you need an account for cloud-based configuration, credential sharing, etc. Maybe it's not for everyone, but I think it makes sense as a product. I highly doubt they added a Google account requirement to improve ad targeting.

I suppose a workaround could be just an OnHub specific Google Account.

Re: OnHub

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Post by drdeca »

jevgeni wrote: post #203
tdkl wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can they link all collected data then ? Could be worse - a G+ account.

A Google Wave account.

Do you mean because they aren't available, or because of something about wave?

When I tried it after hearing it would shut down soon, it seemed neat.

Re: OnHub

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

outworlder wrote: post #171
fweespeech wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> routers have always a pain to configure Eh? You must buy some shitty routers, no offense. Compared to the rest of the market, paying $200 for a router isn't competitive. It just is not worth it given Google's "eh-we-will-do-it-and-stop-if-people-complain/sue" mindset. ---- To Melvin, since I'm submitting to fast: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013ALA9LA?ref=spks_0_0_2170510902&... > OnHub Wireless Router from Google and…

So what's your magical router? Does it have options actually make sense? And a help that is, like, helpful? I'm talking about things such as "Enable XPRESS whatever". Help: "Turns XPRESS whatever on or off". And then you find out that no matter what the feature was supposed to do, theoretically, in practice it makes the router slow and unstable. Or, at worst, crashes it. No brand is immune. Many (non-enterprise) rout…

Have you tried running either a *wrt variant, or, if you don't like poking firmware, any of Ubiquiti's offerings?

Re: OnHub

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Post by dragonwriter »

anujdeshpande wrote: post #18
sixdimensional wrote: post #15

Just interesting to note that the form factor is quite similar to Amazon Echo (slim cylindrical tube), although the function is completely different (router vs "personal assistant device").

It has a speaker built in. So they'll have that with Google Cast Audio, Google Now, etc. I am pretty sure they have a taken a leaf or two out of Amazons book.

The speaker is to talk to your phone, not to you. (Its a low-powered speaker that's used to communicate to a mobile device for configuration.)

Re: OnHub

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Post by jordanthoms »

83457 wrote: post #346
dazbradbury wrote: post #76

Interesting - but I'm not sure what this gives me over something in a similar price range, for example: http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC68U-Wireless-AC1900-Dual-Band-Gig... Presumably either you know something about routers and want to enable QoS, install your own firmware, or use some other advanced feature - and you spend money on a decent router. Or you don't, and use whatever your ISP provides (which if it's bad, you…

anyone know how this compares to mikrotik's router which was recommended to me and I have in my cart about to purchase? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGIXOHQ any suggestion on docsis3 modem?

Seems like a nice router, but the WiFi on that will be much slower - 2.4ghz only and no AC.

Re: OnHub

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Post by vinceguidry »

The wireless radios in routers deteriorate and should be replaced every two years. The ones on your device deteriorates too, but not as quickly because it's not constantly in use like a router's. I will not be buying one of these as I consider these to be infrastructure and infrastructure should be built to industry standards so that it's easily maintained by swapping components.

The privacy concerns bug me, but what bugs me more is the prospect that my lifestyle might start relying on a product that the company putting is out has a nasty tendency to discontinue when it's no longer convenient to support. See: Google Reader.

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