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Re: OnHub

#272

From [1] Get started Welcome! To set up your OnHub, you’ll also need: Google account Android or iOS device Broadband connection Google account? That seems like an unnecessary requirement for a router. [1] https://on.google.com/hub/support/#get-started

(Disclaimer: I work for the same former-division-of-Google-and-now-Alphabet-subsidiary that built this, though I don't work on OnHub.) I think you need an account for cloud-based configuration, credential sharing, etc. Maybe it's not for everyone, but I think it makes sense as a product. I highly doubt they added a Google account requirement to improve ad targeting.

Their privacy policy seems open ended enough to indicate otherwise. Using this router allows Google to collect a HECK of a lot of data about your Internet usage.

Re: OnHub

#273

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> routers have always a pain to configure Eh? You must buy some shitty routers, no offense. Compared to the rest of the market, paying $200 for a router isn't competitive. It just is not worth it given Google's "eh-we-will-do-it-and-stop-if-people-complain/sue" mindset. ---- To Melvin, since I'm submitting to fast: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B013ALA9LA?ref=spks_0_0_2170510902&... > OnHub Wireless Router from Google and…

> Trust me. I don't trust people who say "Trust me." :)

I'm sure. No one ever believes me until I've been paid to fix it. I'm used to it.

Re: OnHub

#275

Why does this thing need an ambient light detector? Really? Since when should infrastructure care what the environment looks like? Also TPM? Can't wait for the teardown to find that there is a microphone in it.

Ever slept in a room with a wireless router before? Those flashing lights get annoying.

Re: OnHub

#276

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I have a 1 Gbps fiber connection at my apartment. I spent a good hour doing research and finally bought this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BUSDVBQ . It had 4.5 stars at the time and was the highest rated router that Amazon carried. I bought it, plugged it in and ran speedtest on it. Max speed I could get was 250mb/s. Not bad but not the gb/s that was getting advertised. Additional, over time, it would always sl…

I was in the same situation as you. Same Router too. I could actually get close to 1 Gbps with the stock firmware. But it was unstable, requiring a reset every other day. I used an open source firmware, but it didn't contain the NAT offload module, so I would not be able to get over 200-250 Mbps. (This was is all wired, not wireless). Since I had a wifi access point, I ended up switching to an Ubiquity Edgemax router…

Here's the thing about TP-Link: They're a "good enough" manufactur. Meaning if you care about something, don't buy a TP-Link, but if you don't care that much and just need it to basically work "good enough" (e.g. WiFi for your mom's house) then they're fine.

I got a cheap TP-Link repeater. It works fine, nothing special, no bells or whistles. But for the price it was a good buy.

Re: OnHub

#277

So can I use it to do all the nerdy things I use my DD-WRT flashed router for? Like QoS, adblocking at the router, a separate guest WiFi, VPN support, MAC address filtering, etc?

you are not the target audience!

Well maybe they are... If it can do all that without learning DD-WRT, then I'll buy it. I understand all those things and want most of them enabled at home, I just don't have the time or motivation to learn the configuration files despite being a programmer who's perfectly capable of it. The interface should be distinct from the capability.

Re: OnHub

#278
I have a new-ish Tp-Link router that's been driving me utterly batty, so I'm looking forward to Google getting into this game.

Hope they develop a full line of products, like having a second device for range-boosting.

Re: OnHub

#279
Huh... Just thinking about what a smart router COULD do...

What if this thing allowed you to punch holes in the firewall through the app, wherever you are? That'd be fairly nifty...

And what if it had VPN built in to the router and the app? That'd be nice as well...

Viewing access log files remotely?

Hmmm - what if it has parental locks? Like, a whitelist of websites for THIS device (kid's tablet), but dad's phone and mom's phone can do anything...

I also can't help but wonder if this thing has Google Fi BUILT IN to it. Meaning, anyone driving by on your street gets to send some packets through your router with really fast switching.... If you allow it. And if you have Google Fiber (gigabit), why wouldn't you allow it?

Oh, and the other one that occurs to me... With all of those antennas... Do you think they might actually be able to estimate your radial location, relative to the device? To some amount of accuracy? Might be interesting. Probably estimate distance, too... Put them together...

If I were slightly evil, I'd be thinking about designing a router that I could market to small businesses. Walk in to your Starbucks, and the guy behind the counter automatically sees your picture, and your regular orders up on the screen...

Re: OnHub

#280
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I'm just curious why so many wireless routers are flakey, need frequently reset, have connection issues, etc. That, and what Google is actually doing differently than other high quality routers.

To your first question: they're rushed out of the door in a hurry to catch the next trend, and have poor cooling and poor software. To your second question: other high quality routers don't enable Google to spy on you quite so effortlessly.
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