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Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

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Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

#51
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While the tool to flash the SD that Microsoft built requires Windows 10, it doesn't require anything else besides a Pi: http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/win10/SetupRPI.htm Granted, if you go through the developer site, it points you towards installing what you need to develop software for it. shrug

There are dozens of other tools available to do the same thing, and yet they had to go build their own?

Microsoft: Not Invented Here

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

#52
post #37

Sorry, silly question: can one use this Win10 R-pi as a "real computer"? (more to the point: I want to run labview programs on this r-pi, because of its small size/cost -- give/receive triggers various home automation equipment etc., I'm wondering if that'll be possible with this)

You can install LabView on it, just not if the OS is Windows 10 IoT.

http://forums.ni.com/t5/LabVIEW-Idea-Exchange/LabVIEW-for-Ra...

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

#53

A robotic hockey table doesn't seem very IoT to me. I'm a little confused as to what Windows brings to the table for embedded devices at this point, especially screenless ones.

Microsoft just came out with an Android Emulator this year too. It's faster than any other emulator that I've seen and it's really well integrated with Visual Studio. If you've never really used Microsofts tools before and all that you've heard about Microsoft has originated from the crowd that hangs out at HN, you can be forgiven for not knowing that they make very fine quality tools.

Indeed, their developer tools are some of the best, though the do tend to try locking you in their environment.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

#54
License? Seems hard to find online. Not looking for anything unusual for the existing raspi community, just what do I have to do to make a project on it then distribute a bootable sdcard image to users around the world for free. I'm guessing its a total non-starter but if I were surprised by it being BSD/GPL that would be interesting.

The hardware compatibility part of the release notes look like a bad linux install from 1995, which is pretty funny.

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

#57
post #25

Supporting a proprietary platform on Raspberry Pi kind of defeats the point of the openness on which Raspberry Pi was built, no?

Unfortunately, there are a few parts of RPi that are closed, like the GPU, if I recall correctly, but I do agree with you that it sort of goes against the philosophy of tinkering that openness brings.

There is a reasonable Gallium / Mesa driver for the GPU on the way; for simple OpenGL / OpenCL workloads it works reasonably well. It is being actively worked on so it is still improving.

https://wiki.freedesktop.org/dri/VC4/

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

#58
post #3

When they released this a couple of months ago I was pretty excited to try it out. I think the barrier to installation is a bit high. First install Windows 10, then custom install of VS, install IoT Templates, then about 30 more steps before you get the image to flash on your SD. How about a link to the image I can blast on the SD and kick the tires without a couple hours of downloading and installing prerequisites?

While the tool to flash the SD that Microsoft built requires Windows 10, it doesn't require anything else besides a Pi: http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/win10/SetupRPI.htm Granted, if you go through the developer site, it points you towards installing what you need to develop software for it. shrug

>A PC running Windows 10 (Prepared in the previous step)

That requirement itself is a big step:

http://ms-iot.github.io/content/en-US/win10/SetupPCRPI.htm

Re: Windows 10 IoT Core for Raspberry Pi 2

#59
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine you never used VC++ debugger...

I have quite regularly, but I'm just as comfortable in that of Eclipse, Qt Creator, gdb, or even binary debuggers like IDA's or OllyDbg for reverse engineering. I don't see it as a major advantage over any other platform. It's a simple GUI debugger, nothing fancy. Am I missing something?

- Parallel watches of multiple threads variables

- Visualization of threads and their stacks contents

- Customizable breakpoints in many different ways (conditions, hit count, only on special thread)

- Visualization of tasks (PPL)

- Its STL visualizers are much nicer to use and customize than any of the alternatives

- Selective control of threads execution behavior

- Re-execution of code blocks

- Ability to perform code navigation across .obj and .dll files without access to source code (only on Architect version)

Yeah sure, gdb can have some of this stuff, it even allows for some kind of C/C++ REPL, but I won't be debugging parallel code with it.

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