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It might be harder to track your progress, but progress will be made nevertheless.

Progress will _only_ be made with sufficient stimulus, and your body will rapidly adapt so the stimulus is not sufficient -- unless you do progressive overload (and ideally occasional deloads too)

You will progressively overload without tracking or thinking about it if you maintain a constant rate of perceived exertion.

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Starting strength is good but Rippetoe is very old school and the community has some cultish vibes. He is totally inflexible about any slight variation like high bar squats and trap bar deadlifts, which are great exercises and often better. His forums are not particularly friendly either. (Example: https://startingstrength.com/resources/forum/mark-rippetoe-q... ) I think stronglifts is generally a better program for…

Been powerlifting for 15 years and I strongly disagree. Stronglifts basically aped Starting Strength with minimal tweaks to justify separate branding, and only caught on over SS because of the slick app. Rippetoe has been coaching strength for many decades and was a competitive lifter himself, with his all-time PRs for squat and deadlift being a little over 600. He’s trained a network of coaches who command crazy pri…

To be fair, Mehdi is clear that he didn’t invent the program.

> The 5×5 workout is a strength and muscle building program that’s been around for over 60 years.

> It’s not clear who invented the 5×5 workout. The first person to write about in the 1960s was Arnold Schwarzenegger’s mentor, Reg Park.

https://stronglifts.com/5x5/#Overview

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IMHO "body weight" should be preselected in the "equipment I have available" input. Not sure of a situation where I would be capable of working out, but not have access to my own body weight.

Wheelchair bound would be capable of some workouts, but not all body weight. Actually what would be more useful than pre-selecting body weight, would be a setting to mark certain groups/muscles/appendages as injured, missing, disabled, or weakened.

I quite like this, and hadn't considered the accessibility angle due to my privilege, thank you for sharing. :)

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Been powerlifting for 15 years and I strongly disagree. Stronglifts basically aped Starting Strength with minimal tweaks to justify separate branding, and only caught on over SS because of the slick app. Rippetoe has been coaching strength for many decades and was a competitive lifter himself, with his all-time PRs for squat and deadlift being a little over 600. He’s trained a network of coaches who command crazy pri…

To be fair, Mehdi is clear that he didn’t invent the program. > The 5×5 workout is a strength and muscle building program that’s been around for over 60 years. > It’s not clear who invented the 5×5 workout. The first person to write about in the 1960s was Arnold Schwarzenegger’s mentor, Reg Park. https://stronglifts.com/5x5/#Overview

That is fair and I didn’t know that! Thanks for the info. Dude made a lot of money off of it for not being the inventor :)

Now that you mention it, SL is probably a great program if you’re doing steroids and can recover from ~anything in 24 hours!

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The main problem with SS for me is that encourages you to push through extreme exhaustion, because weight resets are based on failure to complete reps, and completely ignore Rate of Perceived Exertion (RPE). I got a lot stronger on SS, but the last few weeks were killer and ended with injuries for me.

I would describe it differently, but I share your general take. The main weakness of SS is that once it gets heavy you really need professional feedback, because your form will begin to deteriorate. This will happen regardless of the program. Still, I wish SS was more clear about it—most beginners are not gonna film themselves and ask for form checks online, and ought to seek a coach irl. RPE wouldn’t work either bec…

It is overwhelming your work capacity that really leads to injuries. Form doesn't matter for that.

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Post proof that deadlifts and squats present unique danger.

Compare a barbell squat to a bodyweight pistol squat. What does a beginner hitting failure look like with either? For the pistol squat you can’t get up and just maybe fall over 1 foot onto your yoga mat, or just use your other leg to balance and stand. The barbell back squat failure is absolutely ugly in comparison. You are down and can’t get up, maybe you try and push anyway with your back vs legs, thats a lot of we…

The injury rate for powerlifting (sport that does squat + deadlift + bench press) is extremely low, and those who do that as a sport are probably lifting way, way more than almost everyone reading these comments ever will.

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Post proof that your preferred style of workout is better overall.

I don't care about proving it to you at all. There's thousands of bodybuilding ressources on the net if you're really interested, and the website I linked show a lof of before / after pictures. And in reality it's not better than any other one that focuses on the big 6. What I like wit LG is that the idea is to be "very focused on what really matters" which is compound motions and reaching failure points. Personally…

You say that "what really matters" is compound motions and reaching failure points, but there isn't any good evidence for that. If your goal is to get good at compound motion and reaching failure points, sure.

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This is why there is such a thing as a power rack/squat rack. You can fail completely safely with this equipment. If you are an olympic lifter, almost everyone is taught how to bail these lifts from the beginning with the empty bar. Most people aren't and lift in racks built just to be able to safely lift heavy. Its on you if you don't actually set up the safety bars for yourself.

Failing safely in a squat rack means you know how to bail from the weight in a way to not further injure yourself. Thats not immediately obvious, like learning to fall in other sports. I know people who were in athletics, using the school squat rack with a coach, and still ended up with injuries. Not everyone sees an olympic lifting coach before trying olympic lifts at the gym, probably a very small percentage actual…

Any way that you fall, the pins will catch the bar before it lands on you. Failing safely, for the most part, only requires knowing how to set up the rack and safety pins properly.

Even barring that, the injury rate in squatting is quite low compared to most other sports and athletic activities of similar intensity.

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I would describe it differently, but I share your general take. The main weakness of SS is that once it gets heavy you really need professional feedback, because your form will begin to deteriorate. This will happen regardless of the program. Still, I wish SS was more clear about it—most beginners are not gonna film themselves and ask for form checks online, and ought to seek a coach irl. RPE wouldn’t work either bec…

It is overwhelming your work capacity that really leads to injuries. Form doesn't matter for that.

I agree in general, but not for beginners. If you’re some college kid whose idea of form comes from books and YouTube, odds are you’re doing something so wrong that you’ll tweak your back deadlifting or squatting long before you’re capable of overwhelming your work capacity.
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